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Old 05-27-2007, 07:37 AM
fruitypro fruitypro is offline
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Default QQ overpair in RR pot, facing action from passive player, 1/2 FTP

My image is kind of crazy. I'm playing 20/15 on the table, but I've stacked several people over the last couple of orbits - the first was QQ v 33 (RR pot) a/i on 889 flop (!) and the next time I backdoored a flush to crack a slow played set and all the money went in on the river :-) I think people are perceiving me as a bit of a luckbox on the table, and a pretty aggro one at that.

My opponent is playing 25/12/2 over 1400 hands - he hasnt got out of line at all at the table, I dont really remember him from any past sessions.

Against a more aggro opponent, I'm gonna be getting my money in preflop or on this flop, but against this opponent, is there a case for slowing down (calling/folding)?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($197)
Hero ($673.75)
Button ($318.60)
SB ($200)
BB ($200.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, Button calls $7, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $30</font>, Hero calls $21, Button folds.

Flop: ($65) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $56</font>, Hero ???
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:53 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair in RR pot, facing action from passive player, 1/2 FTP

Push! He is definately going to bet this flop so it doesnt mean much and if you call can you really fold to a turn bet getting &gt; 2:1?
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:58 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair in RR pot, facing action from passive player, 1/2 FTP

raising flop does us no good.
call and fold if he bets a brick
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:03 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair in RR pot, facing action from passive player, 1/2 FTP

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raising flop does us no good.

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Why not - the pot is huge and I want AK/AQ etc out of this one, although sometimes they get stubborn and call
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:07 AM
McRoNiX McRoNiX is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair in RR pot, facing action from passive player, 1/2 FTP

surely a decent chance of facing AA/KK here?
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair in RR pot, facing action from passive player, 1/2 FTP

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raising flop does us no good.

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Why not - the pot is huge and I want AK/AQ etc out of this one, although sometimes they get stubborn and call

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I think we lose too much those times he'd call or push to our raise. Yes, he might catch up with his AK/AQ about 12% of the time on the turn, but i believe calling is still better. (maybe i can do the math later; dont have time right now)
The way the hand played and his big c-bet on this superdry flop (when a med pp is very likely for hero) i dont think he has AK/AQ here too often. (Would be a good bet if he had though)
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair in RR pot, facing action from passive player, 1/2 FTP

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raising flop does us no good.
call and fold if he bets a brick

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Why ? doesn't AJ fire another on blank turn ? obviously if he is RR only big PP we're behind everything in which case a fold now is prudent.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair in RR pot, facing action from passive player, 1/2 FTP

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raising flop does us no good.
call and fold if he bets a brick

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Why ? doesn't AJ fire another on blank turn ? obviously if he is RR only big PP we're behind everything in which case a fold now is prudent.

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AJ probably is, yes. But that negreanu: put him on a hand you beat and call.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair in RR pot, facing action from passive player, 1/2 FTP

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raising flop does us no good.
call and fold if he bets a brick

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Why ? doesn't AJ fire another on blank turn ? obviously if he is RR only big PP we're behind everything in which case a fold now is prudent.

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Is a reraise from the blinds with AJ standard in the 1/2 game?
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair in RR pot, facing action from passive player, 1/2 FTP

Sometimes I push, sometimes I call. I like pushing here though because you will get looked up by hands like 88-TT. People never believe pushes but frequently shut down when you just call.
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