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Old 05-26-2007, 09:10 AM
PIAAAA PIAAAA is offline
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Default KK and QQ sets on Nl50 and Nl100

Would your play vary? Comment If I could have done something better? What hands would you put these guys on?
NL50 dude PFR 4%, VPIP 18%
No reads on NL100



NL100
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (10 handed)

CO ($40)
Button ($158.70)
Hero ($100.20)
BB ($74.40)
UTG ($38.05)
UTG+1 ($69.72)
UTG+2 ($138.10)
MP1 ($133.25)
MP2 ($101.85)
MP3 ($133.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q. CO posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, UTG+2 calls $1, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero raises to $8</font>, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $7, UTG+2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds.

Flop: ($20.50) 6, K, Q (2 players)</font>
Hero bets $14</font>, UTG+1 calls $14.

Turn: ($48.50) A (2 players)
Hero bets $99.70 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $69.72 (All-In).

River: ($217.92) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $217.92





NL50
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed)

MP1 ($49.50)
MP2 ($24.50)
MP3 ($44.55)
CO ($53.65)
Button ($25.45)
SB ($16.05)
BB ($63.75)
UTG ($9.70)
Hero ($50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, K.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, MP1 calls $2, 6 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) J, K, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.5, MP1 calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.75) T (2 players)
Hero bets $10, MP1 calls $10.

River: ($31.75) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 calls $49.50 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $81.25
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:27 AM
Teddie Teddie is offline
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Default Re: KK and QQ sets on Nl50 and Nl100

NL 100 - Do people limp in EP then call at raise at that level?! With no reads I'd put him on JT hearts, which is disgusting, with him limping i rule out AJ+. Also, I'd make your raise about $10 or $12. Bet the pot on the flop aswell, with the Fd there you dont want to give him cards cheaply.

NL 50 - Again i dont think your betting enough post-flop. With the flush out there not betting the pot isnt wise. I'd make $5 here, then on the turn having a straight and flush i'd make it $20 dollars. River is an easy fold.
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:39 AM
dynacraze dynacraze is offline
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Default Re: KK and QQ sets on Nl50 and Nl100

are you kidding me bet 20 on the turn? That's 2x the pot size. I also don't see anytning wrong with betting 3.50 into a 5 dollar pot. That's 70 percent. am i wrong?
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: KK and QQ sets on Nl50 and Nl100

I'm with you dyna I think the op bets were about right. about 75% on the flop with the drawy nature of the boards.

Potting the flop and double potting the turn is a little like your playing scared.
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: KK and QQ sets on Nl50 and Nl100

Both hands look fine to me. All the bets look fine.
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:21 AM
Cry Me A River Cry Me A River is offline
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Default Re: KK and QQ sets on Nl50 and Nl100

Flops bets looks small to me, particularly considering how drawy the flops are but YMMV.
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: KK and QQ sets on Nl50 and Nl100

I'd think KK or AA would have reraised pf in the first hand, so I like it as played.

2nd hand, bet pot on the flop and turn, so you're betting 5 and 15 instead of 3.5 and 10. Don't mess around with a KJ5 2s flop. Unless he has JJ or 55, he should have at least one draw and maybe two.
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: KK and QQ sets on Nl50 and Nl100

YMMV ???
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Old 05-27-2007, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: KK and QQ sets on Nl50 and Nl100

hand 1- why are we overbet shoving the turn here? I guess party is easy enough that this works, but why not just bet $30-40 or CRAI on the turn?

hand 2-looks good, b/f river is an alternative line, but he has an A here a lot probably and betting $10 and folding to a shove is probably a little worse than c/f in this spot.
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Old 05-27-2007, 05:25 AM
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Default Re: KK and QQ sets on Nl50 and Nl100

Hand 1. I bet $36 on the turn. Why risk scaring away a second best hand here?

Hand 2. I initially thought of bet/folding the river (about $18). Having given it some thought, I now like the check/fold. At this level, your opponent won't bluff this off you enough when you are ahead to make bet/folding better than checking IMO. He has to fear you holding AK, so a bluff would be brave.
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