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Old 05-26-2007, 06:13 PM
ThePlan ThePlan is offline
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Default Nut flush draw on A high board with KK

Villain is 32/17. Whats the plan from here? Calling leaves me OOP. Do I just have to fold this?

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CO ($202.20)
Button ($424.70)
SB ($184.85)
BB ($364.90)
UTG ($198.30)
Hero ($208)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $13</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:09 PM
FastPlaySlow FastPlaySlow is offline
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Default Re: Nut flush draw on A high board with KK

Hmm, you can't be ahead with that raise... so I'd call since you have the nut flush draw. If you miss, check/fold.
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw on A high board with KK

I'd shove or fold, if you just call your draw is kinda obvious and will probably have a hard time getting paid off.

Actually, I think shoving flop is kinda sexy.
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:51 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: Nut flush draw on A high board with KK

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I'd shove or fold, if you just call your draw is kinda obvious and will probably have a hard time getting paid off.

Actually, I think shoving flop is kinda sexy.

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Hero is getting huge odds. I doubt it is hard to extract the necessary amount.

But in any case I probably shove because vs. an Ace you have 11 outs, not 9, so he really doesn't need to fold often. I can't see a REAL hand minraising here and giving us odds.
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:55 PM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: Nut flush draw on A high board with KK

I probably shove and if i lose put it down to metagame
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw on A high board with KK

It wasn't a minraise by villain on flop.
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Old 05-26-2007, 09:02 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: Nut flush draw on A high board with KK

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It wasn't a minraise by villain on flop.

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I noticed that, but it's still too small so I think it's a pussy-raise.

Real men bet pot there with a set or Aces Up, or a flush. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-26-2007, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw on A high board with KK

i check that flop 100% of time, if someone bets I call or raise depending on things
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw on A high board with KK

Yeah, I check the flop too. As played, push or fold.
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