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Old 05-26-2007, 08:29 AM
Mahatma Mahatma is offline
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Default 200bb deep and my QQ gets 3bet oop.

Villian is an aggro 40/20 player who previously 3bet me from the sb with AQ and 2 barrelled me on a rag flop. Should I 3-bet preflop and fold to push or calls the 3-bet and fold somewhere in the hand?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($68.37)
Button ($24.65)
SB ($35.95)
BB ($27.75)
UTG ($39.41)
Hero ($45.64)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.65.

Flop: ($5.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $4.75</font>, Hero calls $4.75.

Turn: ($14.85) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15.

River: ($44.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $42.65</font>, Hero calls $45.64 (All-In).

Final Pot: $133.14
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:48 AM
corsakh corsakh is offline
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Default Re: 200bb deep and my QQ gets 3bet oop.

Fold turn.
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Old 05-26-2007, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: 200bb deep and my QQ gets 3bet oop.

i would 3 bet pre flop, in this hand considering ur OOP i think you should be taking control. if you then bet the flop and get raised im thinking get it all in onthe flop. if he really has a 7 u still have two outs, but its very unlikely that he does have the 7. check calling him down is pretty weak and if an ace or king comes on the river you have to let it go and by just calling him down on the flop and turn your letting him catch cards for free.
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:17 AM
neverforgetlol neverforgetlol is offline
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Default Re: 200bb deep and my QQ gets 3bet oop.

you need to 3bet pf and then lead the flop, now you have no idea where you are
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: 200bb deep and my QQ gets 3bet oop.

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i would 3 bet pre flop, in this hand considering ur OOP i think you should be taking control. if you then bet the flop and get raised im thinking get it all in onthe flop. if he really has a 7 u still have two outs, but its very unlikely that he does have the 7. check calling him down is pretty weak and if an ace or king comes on the river you have to let it go and by just calling him down on the flop and turn your letting him catch cards for free.

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he was 3 bet - are you suggesting a 4 bet?

a 7 is in ~0% of his range so thats kinda irrelevant.

when the play is real deep i actually prefer to 4 bet more pf - i like a 4 bet here myself although i wouldnt do it with only 100 bbs in front.

as played i think about raising the flop but would probably end up folding the turn
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:58 AM
tubk tubk is offline
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Default Re: 200bb deep and my QQ gets 3bet oop.

sorry i meant, raise the 3better by 3, so make it like 7.50 or 8 to go, im new here and im just trying to get used to all of this language so please excuse me.

so yes, 4 bet is what i meant. can you explain why you would fold the turn and what hand you put him on?

also, i was watching you earlier and NH with the slowplayed aces, wp. :]
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:09 AM
Abramovic Abramovic is offline
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Default Re: 200bb deep and my QQ gets 3bet oop.

Played good till turn where its a fold.
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