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Old 05-25-2007, 07:41 PM
KJatl KJatl is offline
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Default 100NL Weak TP + FD - What\'s our plan?

Preflop is standard I think. Pot odds and implied odds.
What's my plan for this flop?

Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($46.00)
SB ($193.50)
Hero ($141.21)
UTG ($115.75)
MP ($47.25)
CO ($84.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $5</font>, MP calls $5, CO calls $5, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($20.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Weak TP + FD - What\'s our plan?

Reads are very important here. If villain's are passive, I b3b. If no, CRAI.
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Weak TP + FD - What\'s our plan?

You're first to act and I expect UTG to play back at you. Check to deny him any information with the intention of calling most smaller bets. Or stop bet something like 2/3. You've got the 9 outs, plus another 5 for 2pair/trips. 14 outs twice means you're not folding to much even when you're behind so I like the check.
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Weak TP + FD - What\'s our plan?

Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($46.00)
SB ($193.50)
Hero ($141.21)
UTG ($115.75)
MP ($47.25)
CO ($84.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $5</font>, MP calls $5, CO calls $5, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($20.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $50</font>, MP folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?? </font>

We're putting UTG squarely on an overpair. Now what?
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Weak TP + FD - What\'s our plan?

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Reads are very important here. If villain's are passive, I b3b. If no, CRAI.

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we aren't deep enough for b3b and i wouldn't like it anyways really.

Check-raise all in is good because you can trap multiple people.
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Weak TP + FD - What\'s our plan?

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Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($46.00)
SB ($193.50)
Hero ($141.21)
UTG ($115.75)
MP ($47.25)
CO ($84.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $5</font>, MP calls $5, CO calls $5, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($20.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $50</font>, MP folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?? </font>

We're putting UTG squarely on an overpair. Now what?

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meh...u [censored] this one up good. if u could call and fold a blank turn that would be your best option but now you're getting odds to call a turn push so...

u have to push on the flop NOT because u have FE, but you want to guarantee you get paid when u hit your flush.
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Weak TP + FD - What\'s our plan?

[ QUOTE ]
Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($46.00)
SB ($193.50)
Hero ($141.21)
UTG ($115.75)
MP ($47.25)
CO ($84.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $5</font>, MP calls $5, CO calls $5, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($20.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $50</font>, MP folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?? </font>

We're putting UTG squarely on an overpair. Now what?

[/ QUOTE ]

shove
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Weak TP + FD - What\'s our plan?

Pretty easy shove once you led out like this. It's not necessary to pot in. $15 works.
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Weak TP + FD - What\'s our plan?

If you're doing a bet/3bet, I'd bet much smaller. Like ~$12, although I agree that stacks are likely not deep enough for it to be ideal unless opponents like to undersize their bets/raises.

As played, shove because you're not folding turn and you want to get paid off when you make the best hand.
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Old 05-25-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Weak TP + FD - What\'s our plan?

I agree with the sizing, if you go a little smaller on the flop you can B/3B with some FE
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