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Old 05-25-2007, 01:18 AM
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Villain was 23/23 through 15 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $12, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $52</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $400</font>, Button folds,
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: Stupid Preflop Question

standard move is to fold here..
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:55 AM
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Hand 0: 43.229% 41.86% 01.37% 176310408 5780460.00 { JJ }
Hand 1: 56.771% 55.40% 01.37% 233355456 5780460.00 { TT+, AKs, AKo }
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:04 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Definite fold with no history imo.
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Old 05-25-2007, 03:20 AM
RaiseAndPray RaiseAndPray is offline
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Default Re: Stupid Preflop Question

Fold.

Nah, call, then pray for a J on board or AK for villain.

No, fold.

I call.
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Old 05-25-2007, 03:21 AM
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Default Re: Stupid Preflop Question

std muckemsayunnnhhh

calling pre is ok also but i have no problem with raise
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Old 05-25-2007, 03:41 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
Hand 0: 43.229% 41.86% 01.37% 176310408 5780460.00 { JJ }
Hand 1: 56.771% 55.40% 01.37% 233355456 5780460.00 { TT+, AKs, AKo }

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't think most players range for a 4-bet push includes TT or JJ.

That makes it way worse. Unless this becomes a habit of his, I think this is an easy muck.
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Old 05-25-2007, 04:36 AM
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"Villain was 23/23 through 15 hands."

This means nothing, kinda irrelevant since its only 15 hands, just for future posts.

And yes I'd advocate a fold here, a clear fold it is. I'd say he'll do this w/ JJ+, AKs which gets you really in tough spot.
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Old 05-25-2007, 04:42 AM
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I fold with the lack of a read, but against some people this is ALWAYS AK
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Old 05-25-2007, 04:50 AM
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"Villain was 23/23 through 15 hands."

This means nothing, kinda irrelevant since its only 15 hands, just for future posts.

[/ QUOTE ]

Uh he's just giving the information that's available. It's at least slightly more informative than nothing. I don't see the problem
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