Overpair vs. turn shove NL200

[Al_Money]

Villain has stats of 25/10/1.5 but just sat and stats are datamined, so no real reads.

Anyone 3 bet flop? Fold flop? Call turn?

Button ($190.75)
SB ($209.85)
BB ($129.40)
UTG ($132.95)
MP ($248.40)
Hero ($200)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, Button calls $7, SB calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($23) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $46</font>, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($113) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $157.85 (All-In)</font>, Hero?

[BombayBadboy]

Call. I'd shove flop though.

[Margin Of Error]

With that board I think you should size your flop bet a little bigger, like 20-21. I'm also folding to the flop raise from a standard TAG.

[BombayBadboy]

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With that board I think you should size your flop bet a little bigger, like 20-21. I'm also folding to the flop raise from a standard TAG.

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You have got to be kidding me. This is an ideal board to raise someone with air. Hero is not going to like this board alot of the time. Folding is very weak I think.

[DaCooler]

yuck, tougth spot, without reads i would consider foldign but not sure if i would actually do it

[BombayBadboy]

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yuck, tougth spot, without reads i would consider foldign but not sure if i would actually do it

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If you start folding KK here everytime, bluffing flops/ turns like this becomes a very good idea for villain.

[TheRegulat0r]

push on the flop.

[Al_Money]

all,

What kind of range are you putting villain on here? Keep in mind he's not really a TAG and he is pretty passive overall. I was thinking pretty much AJ, 78s, 98s, T9s, T8s, maybe flush draws? Are you hoping to get called if you shove this flop?