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Old 05-22-2007, 03:24 PM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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Default Gross QQ preflop spot(self induced?)

I haven't seen villain before, but he is on 4 tables total, 2 of mine. He is playing 28/25 and has an amazing image since every single pot he has showdown the nuts, or picked up the pot without a showdown.

I also recently made a badcall down in a blind battle on our other table where i refused to fold 2nd pair no kicker on a flush board.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($817.50)
Button ($714.15)
SB ($396)
BB ($412.30)
UTG ($1126.90)
MP ($153)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>, MP calls $16, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $70</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $228</font> Hero ?

If you are calling pre, are you shoving over a flop c bet on good flops?

With stacks like this, is my raise even good? I have repopped him a few times already.
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Old 05-22-2007, 03:40 PM
AAismyfriend AAismyfriend is offline
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Default Re: Gross QQ preflop spot(self induced?)

Sounds weak, but i'd probably just fold, this is AA/KK the majority of the time, and the rest of the time it's probably AK, even though 4 betting AK with these stacks OOP seems really bad.
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Old 05-22-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Gross QQ preflop spot(self induced?)

By the way, not 3 betting pre here would be really bad IMO, you played this 100% fine/standard. However if you do decide to call here, you are basically commiting to the hand on non A/K high flops, which is pretty spewy 200BBs deep.
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Old 05-23-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: Gross QQ preflop spot(self induced?)

Bump one time so I can complete the tagfish method of playing this hand. I'm really starting to think just calling pre is best, even though I open myself to being squeezed by solid button, and I actually don't love my hand if it goes hu with him with our stacks. Blinds are weakish, and I also give them a good price to come.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($817.50)
Button ($714.15)
SB ($396)
BB ($412.30)
UTG ($1126.90)
MP ($153)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>, MP calls $16, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $70</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $228</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $158.

Flop: ($478) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $252</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $730
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