Lost with JJ (Play Along)

bunga · #1 05-23-2007, 12:01 AM

Raiser is IamSnow, I have him as fairly nitty 14/10, but right now is is running 25/20 in 40 hands so I don't really know. I am treating him nitty. SB is a total donk, running like 50/35. He probably has me around 20/17ish, we haven't tangled much before don't know if he respects me or not. RR preflop is def an option, but again I am under the impression is that Snow is quite tight.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($611.80)
CO ($394)
Button ($465.80)
SB ($620.20)
Hero ($626.05)
UTG ($449.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $16, 2 folds, SB calls $14, Hero calls $12.

Flop: ($48) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $8, Hero???

ikestoys · #2 05-23-2007, 12:06 AM

You skipped pf?
14/10 isn't nitty enough to not squeeze with JJ IMO. You have some extra equity in the pot and JJ beats his 10% range (I find that 14/10 players tend to raise the same hands in any position rather than change their range with position, they're pretty much on autopilot)

Flop - looks like SB has a draw, raise to a cbet level, like ~45-55. You have position so you can control the pot as you see fit based on the turn. If MP moves over the top, fold. If MP flatcalls, play very cautiously

bunga · #3 05-23-2007, 12:17 AM

I F this part up and raise to 32, IamSnow calls, donk calls. Turn 4C, donk leads for 12... Me???

ikestoys · #4 05-23-2007, 12:20 AM

turn is a good card for you. raise it up again (not huge)

ikestoys · #5 05-23-2007, 12:21 AM

btw not 3betting pf [censored] you in this hand, don't ignore it

bunga · #6 05-23-2007, 12:23 AM

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btw not 3betting pf [censored] you in this hand, don't ignore it

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I am not ignoring it, usually it is my default play, but sometimes I just call. Probably like 85-15. This is one of the 15%.

ikestoys · #7 05-23-2007, 12:26 AM

make it 99.9999999999999%

DMoogle · #8 05-23-2007, 12:28 AM

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btw not 3betting pf [censored] you in this hand, don't ignore it

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I am not ignoring it, usually it is my default play, but sometimes I just call. Probably like 85-15. This is one of the 15%.

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I think, as a general rule in poker, you shouldn't actually "randomize" your play unless against someone you have a lot of history with. Each and every situation is very different. In other words, you should pretty much *always* make the biggest +EV play unless you have real history with the villain OR you want to set a particular image. In those two cases, then you may want to consider making less +EV or even -EV plays for the sake of bigger +EV situations in future times.