AK 50nl 3 bet from blinds

[prodonkey]

Ok Villain is 12 tabler 20/14/3

I had been picking up hand after hand and he'd 3 bet, Q's a couple times, J's a few times, AQ, usually I'd call in position and the flop would be so horrible I'd have to fold. We were playing about 4 tables together. We stacked each other at the same time just before this, when I flopped a set of 9's vs his 3 bet where he had KK or QQ.. and when I had T's he 3 bet me with KK and we got it all in on a rag flop.

I really hate calling in this position, he c-bets like 90% of the time, so I'm either playing fit or fold, or I'm going to end up with some flop bluff.. but he never folds an overpair, he never even folds a small pair to a 3 bet preflop.

So what's the move here? Shove? Fold?

Would you play it any differently here if hero has JJ or QQ?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $54.55
BB: $50.00
UTG: $50.00
<font color="black">Hero (MP): $59.85</font>
CO: $26.70
BTN: $31.70

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $7.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero ???

[barryc83]

I used to 4bet to $20 here and shove any flop, but that didnt seem to work well. I think calling here blows bc his range is wider than JJ+/AK and if you've been pwning the button your hand is just too strong to call. If you were UTG I'd just call. So lately I've been just shoving in spots like this, probably not the most +EV move but the 4bet to 20 then shove sucks for me. Of course you could call and crai on any flop, I never do this though. I shove bc your technically behind 99-JJ (make him make a hero call) and I dont mind taking his 7 and letting him know that he cant just 3bet me to death.

[Angrymoog]

If you dont 4betAI, I think you could check raise flop and get some value. But then, Id be figuring out where else I check raise like that so it isnt obviously a bluff.

[prodonkey]

I can't check raise when I have position.

[Angrymoog]

too true, I read barry's post and forgot to check the actual hand.

[jdefoe]

how about calling and minraising his c-bet if an a or k comeon the flop?

[Angrymoog]

I dunno, i am more inclined at this point that if you know youre being 3bet light, 4 bet AI is a great move here. But you need confirmed history.

[prodonkey]

I don't know if he was 3 betting light or not. Every time I saw his hand it was QQ+. He was holding over me something awful.

[robert jordan]

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I dunno, i am more inclined at this point that if you know youre being 3bet light, 4 bet AI is a great move here. But you need confirmed history.

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I like this a lot.. you gotta show some cajones and let him know that he can't [censored] with you.

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I don't know if he was 3 betting light or not. Every time I saw his hand it was QQ+. He was holding over me something awful.

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Thats the problem.. I say take a stand here and put HIM to the test.

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[Angrymoog]

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Texas hold them rewards bold and yadda yadda yadda

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