intersting spot early in FTOPS $500

[yellowdoyle]

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damn i was gonna say move it in,

but i think its close, and definitely depends on read on miniraiser.

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I don't think it is a fold necessarily either. It is very close, but the minraiser may fold after 2 shoves and you get free chips. Without doing much math, I think this is a shove.

[hamnegger]

i think later in tourney you take a stand here but right now id fold bc there are set possibilities or 85 . if i had a read on the all in guy and i knew he shoved w draws alot id be more inclined to call but i have invested nothing so id bail