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Old 05-22-2007, 10:27 AM
muddydog muddydog is offline
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Default Bad downswing, am I playing badly?

I'm starting to feel like I have no idea if I'm playing badly, every hand I get all in with seems like I have the worst hand lately.

The following hand is from a player that pokertracker lists as being overly loose aggressive, so I figure I'm ahead of their range. My stats are SLA, A so I figure that would open his range further. At these stakes is that a reality or do people even notice? Do I need to stop compensating so much for their laggy play? Do you play this hand differently? I've been trying to concentrate more lately on value betting, especially against a guy like this who is likely to have a worse ace than I do in this spot. I used to check behind the turn a lot in this spot, but a lot of the successful midstakes guys have consistently been writing about value betting on the turn and not being such a wuss, so I've been doing that a lot more. Seems like when I do that though I seem to end up in a lot more situations like this. The player in the following hand has a vpip of over 30, raises 18 and aggression factors of 2-3.

Also note the flush draw wiff on the river, so I figure there is a small chance of a bluff on the miss there.

Please help me figure out if I'm just in a bad run or if I'm overplaying my good but not monster hands.

Also I would have given up on the river if not for the jack, I figure an ace with a baby for the two pair is definitely in his range, is my range too large?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($91.20)
MP ($55.15)
Hero ($63.80)
Button ($46.45)
SB ($57.40)
BB ($63.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], J[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]].
[color=Gray]2 folds</font>, [color=Red]Hero raises to $1.5</font>, [color=Gray]1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($4.50) 6[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], A[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], 8[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, [color=Red]Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3, BB folds.

Turn: ($10.50) 2[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
SB checks, [color=Red]Hero bets $6.5</font>, [color=Red]SB raises to $13</font>, Hero calls $6.50.

River: ($36.50) J[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
[color=Red]SB bets $39.9 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $39.90.

Final Pot: $116.30
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:42 AM
syphlix syphlix is offline
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Default Re: Bad downswing, am I playing badly?

wrong forum... this is for micros...

preview your hands b4 you post...

nothing wrong w betting turn there... call on river looks fine... raise more pf...

i assume he had 22 66 88...
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:47 AM
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Default Re: Bad downswing, am I playing badly?

fold turn
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: Bad downswing, am I playing badly?

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wrong forum... this is for micros...

preview your hands b4 you post...

nothing wrong w betting turn there... call on river looks fine... raise more pf...

i assume he had 22 66 88...

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I'm sorry for posting this I *was* at .5/1 before this recent downswing. I forgot to jump over there since I've moved down. I'll post it there.
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: Bad downswing, am I playing badly?

Trying to apply midstakes concepts at micro stakes is not a good idea IMO.
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Old 05-22-2007, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Bad downswing, am I playing badly?

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fold turn

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Seriously. C/C, C/Min-raise on the turn is almost never a draw. Villain has a set here like 95% of the time IME.
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Old 05-22-2007, 01:45 PM
muddydog muddydog is offline
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Default Re: Bad downswing, am I playing badly?

Thanks guys I'm a donk and I'm going into donk detox.

I really need to rethink my game if I'm making mistakes that are this obvious to everyone else.
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Old 05-22-2007, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: Bad downswing, am I playing badly?

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Thanks guys I'm a donk and I'm going into donk detox.

I really need to rethink my game if I'm making mistakes that are this obvious to everyone else.

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Hey...mistakes are the only way to get better. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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