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[jjshabado]

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3 bet river, there is a chance he puts you on the busted flush draw, so thinks his PP is good.

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This seems a little too specific to put the villain on. Its one possibility, but I don't think its that likely, at least compared to another A or a Q. Then again, I don't like a 3-bet here, and other better players seem to, so take my advice with a grain of salt.

[Frond]

First off, good raise PF in the BB with this hand. I wouldn't fault you for just calling here on the river but I am leaning a bit more towards a 3 bet. I think that you are ahead here. Don't recall what the rag cards were? That might help a little bit more if you recalled those.

[James.]

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3bet. He thinks his queen is good since the board paired. The rest is goot.

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I'd probably 3bet but I really don't give him a Queen?

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this is true from a purely mathematical standpoint if nothing else.

[Dan87]

id 3bet only because villains will raise river with A9 and lower

[schnukums]

I think 3bet is best with a new player who just sat down and is looking to get involved in some pots. Have to put him on a weak A.

[B_Movie_Fan]

Absent any reads I 3-town the river. His likely holdings are a queen, a weak ace, a busted heart draw, a full house of some sort, and a bigger ace in approximately that order. You're way ahead of his 3bet calling range here. Other than that I like it.

[jjshabado]

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Absent any reads I 3-town the river. His likely holdings are a queen, a weak ace, a busted heart draw, a full house of some sort, and a bigger ace in approximately that order. You're way ahead of his 3bet calling range here. Other than that I like it.

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The issue isn't just if he calls the 3-bet, thats basically a given (except for the bluffs, but those aren't that likely). You also have to consider how often you will get raised. If he's raising you with a better hand often enough here, you're losing money with the bet.

I can see the Q, the weak A, or the big A/small A full house, the rest isn't that likely. Even the majority of crappy players won't bluff here at a 4/8 game. I suppose you are ahead often enough that the 3-bet is right. But I think its close.

[smarterthanyoda]

OK, I see the point that a lot of you are making that I should 3-bet.

Having analyzed what the player MAY have been thinking, I wonder if anybody has any ideas what he WAS thinking, given his cards. He had AK, so the third Ace really couldn't helped him unless he was alread ahead. Any idea what was going through his mind calling TPTK twice and then raising? Was it some elaborate fancy play? Is he just playing randomly? Am I overthinking this?

It's not that I mind people calling me down. It's just I can usually figure out why people make their bad plays (afraid of getting out-kicked, thought an overpair was the nuts, etc.) but the river raise doesn't make any sense for someone playing so passively up to the river.

To Frond, I don't remember the rags any more but they were both under 7.

[schnukums]

Three things he may be thinking are:
1. Does not want to get sucked out on by a flush draw/gutshot.(Not likely)
2. Puts you on AA with your preflop raise and second A makes him realize what a wuss he really is.(Not very likely)
3. With only the two of you left on the turn does not raise for fear of losing you and your extra bet on the river.

[Xhad]

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3 bet river, there is a chance he puts you on the busted flush draw, so thinks his PP is good.

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Yeah because bluffing with the best hand is a standard play.