Response to Gigabet

[djj6835]

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You've moved up, you're on my side. Do you think you would do better at the $11s now that you are a successful $22 player or 2 years ago?



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I'm a little confused as to what you are asking. If your asking whether I think I would be a better $11 player now than 2 years ago, then the answer is yes.

However, it is very possible that there is a player that started playing the $11s at the exact same time I did and may have been worse than me at the time. The only difference is he did not move up. I think there is a pretty decent chance that that player is a better $11 player than me despite the fact that I have played all the way up througn the $55s.

[The Yugoslavian]

all,

You know what would be great?

If we got this thread more views and responses than Aleo's $11 Guide....

The irony of that makes me almost want to pay people to continue this hilarious yet mind numblingly painful topic.

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Yugoslav

[SumZero]

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Absolutely. There's no such thing as an $11s expert who can beat the $11s for more than Newt or curtains or whoever but for whatever reason just plays the $11s. A winning player needs like 5 bills to play the $22s.

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This is clearly not necessarily true, for reasons others have given (not everyone who can move up does). But moreover, even if it were true that in the long run a $215 professional could clean the clocks of every pro $11 player in the $11 tournaments, an interesting question would be how soon could they do that?

I took AleoMage's original point about the $11 pro being better at the $11s as being more a claim about current skill and expected ROI over some small finite next number of tournaments. Like if the $215 player wasn't given time to practice or wasn't going to play $11's forever but you could pick to get the winnings from either a top $11 pro or a top $215 pro [who hadn't played the $11's in a long time] in a set of 20 or 50 $11 SNG who would you take? I think a good case can be made for the $11 pro.

In other words even if over the medium and long term the vast majority of $215 pros would adjust to the $11 and be better than the $11 players, how quickly would this adjustment process be? And do you think it is possible that, for a while at least, the $11 pro player would have the higher true ROI at the $11 tournaments until that adjustment had taken place?

[curtains]

Im ready to bet anyone I can get a 20%+ ROI at the $11s after 300 tourneys!

[ender]

Wow, I can get the advice of a loser at SNGs over 2000 games (at stars).

[cha59]

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Wow, I can get the advice of a loser at SNGs over 2000 games (at stars).

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Who? Gigabet?

lol

He must stink


if sharkscope says so!

(make sure you click on pages two and three of that first link)

[fluorescenthippo]

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Wow, I can get the advice of a loser at SNGs over 2000 games (at stars).

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not that you should get advice from him, but this isnt the reason not too. his graph isnt that bad for a high level sng player

[ender]

Do "Lifetime Winnings" include buyins?

[cha59]

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Do "Lifetime Winnings" include buyins?

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No, but I'm pretty sure he's a ahead