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Old 05-21-2007, 05:44 PM
xeanatic xeanatic is offline
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Default NL 25 what to do here?

Villian is:39/13/8 over 40 or so hands

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">SB: $26.20</font>
<u>BB: $19.10</u>
<font color="black">UTG: $23.00</font>
<u>Hero (MP): $26.50</u>
CO: $26.75
BTN: $37.35

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($1) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.75</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $4.00</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $26.25</font>, BB calls all-in for $14.85
Uncalled bet of $7.40 returned to Hero

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($38.70) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($38.70) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $38.70 ($1.90 Rake)

Is this okay here? I don't think villian has a set maybe a set of fours. I think he will have raised TT, 77 PF so I am putting him on a TP hand or a funky 2Pair hand.
Is my shove here good and how about my range for the villian?
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Old 05-21-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 what to do here?

I wouldn't limp with this preflop, raise if anything. As played I don't mind getting it all in on the flop, sorry you didn't hit.
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Old 05-21-2007, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 what to do here?

Using pokerstove, the most realistic (I don't think 7-4 is realistic here) hands villain has are:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

10,890 games 0.005 secs 2,178,000 games/sec

Board: Ts 7c 4c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.901% 46.86% 00.04% 5103 4.50 { 9c8c }
Hand 1: 53.099% 53.06% 00.04% 5778 4.50 { 7d7s, 4d4h, 4d4s, 4h4s, Td7d, 6c5c, Tc7d, Tc7s, Td7s, Th7d, Th7s }


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9,900 games 0.016 secs 618,750 games/sec

Board: Ts 7c 4c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.444% 44.44% 00.00% 4400 0.00 { 9c8c }
Hand 1: 55.556% 55.56% 00.00% 5500 0.00 { 7d7s, 4d4h, 4d4s, 4h4s, Td7d, Tc7d, Tc7s, Td7s, Th7d, Th7s }


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So you are behind to his range, although you have a monster draw. I wouldn't have suspected you were a dog to his range, but you are a &lt;i&gt;slight dog&lt;/i&gt;. I like the play as you show extreme strength and you do have a great draw. I wouldn't knock the play in the heat of battle.

Edit: I didn't think about Ac10c either...that would be a all in call possibly.

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Old 05-21-2007, 05:57 PM
Bramsterdam Bramsterdam is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 what to do here?

You can't trust your PT stats after 40 hands. So it's pretty hard to assign a range to villain, especially since he was in the BB.

Anyway, you are only behind a set here (right?) and the fact that BB can have any 2 pair combination makes your play 100% standard.
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:01 PM
losingdonkey losingdonkey is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 what to do here?

Def. dont like that stove range, don't think it's accurate at all.
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 what to do here?

It would be helpful if you posted what you thought would be an accurate pokerstove range.
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 what to do here?

Raise preflop if you're going to play this.
Flop is standard.
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Old 05-21-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 what to do here?

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It would be helpful if you posted what you thought would be an accurate pokerstove range.

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maybe one consisting of other hands he may be playing not just hands that beat you
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Old 05-21-2007, 11:03 PM
Minnie Man Minnie Man is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 what to do here?

One of the only other hands I can see that might call and AI here is another flush draw or the hands listed in the pokerstove. I might have missed a few, but who calls such a big overbet shove with many worse hands than listed in my pokerstove calc?
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