NL50 - QT top 2

cuQa · #1 05-21-2007, 06:11 PM

Villain is 35/11/2.2 with 32 wtsd ..

river bet okay?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter
SB: $60.85
BB: $50.00
UTG: $50.00
CO: $82.66
Hero (BTN): $78.43

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($2.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $4.00, 3 folds, CO raises to $7.50, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($18) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero bets $12.00, CO calls $12.00

River: ($42) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero bets $22.00, CO calls $22.00

Pot Size: $86.00 ($2 Rake)

losingdonkey · #2 05-21-2007, 06:17 PM

You're on the button with Q10os, limps to you, YOU DONT CALL. YOU RAISE. limping is only going to get you into tough spots like this one where you're unsure of how strong your hand is until showdown.

BishopsFinger · #3 05-21-2007, 06:24 PM

raise or muck preflop and im also probably shoving over this flop

Minnie Man · #4 05-21-2007, 06:32 PM

In almost all cases, this is a raise PF. No.....I changed my mind. In every case you should raise this. I think the flop is okay. After villain checks the turn and the river, a value bet is okay. It is really read dependent. Does this villain usually call down with weak holdings? You could be behind to a baby flush and villain is checking thinking he might be against a bigger flush. I don't mind the river bet. I think in most cases, you are ahead given the passive play of villain on turn and river.

cuQa · #5 05-21-2007, 06:36 PM

hm, I decided not to raise because so much micro players call too much .. of course you could say that I should fold then but I got position and most of the players play poorly postflop so I often limp in with one gappers or offsuited connectors.

I dont want to built a pot with a marginal hand ..

but what if I would hold QTs for example .. is this a definite raise too?

Abramovic · #6 05-21-2007, 06:56 PM

I prefer fold preflop.

CO's play makes no sense, and because of his flop play I may be tempted to check behind on river. I really doubt he's calling 3 streets on this board with a 1 pair hand, particularly one he has limped with.

Also, I havent seen you at 50NL tables (Ive been slugging around there this month). Did you change your screenname?

cuQa · #7 05-22-2007, 05:38 AM

no, unfortunately I needed to cash out a large amount because I move out of my parents house.

I kept 350$ and rebuilded .. yesterday I finally got a marginal roll for nl50

Chomp · #8 05-22-2007, 05:47 AM

I never have the stones to bet here on river, and I honestly don't think you get called by much other than a little flush. That is a very chunky bet, and with a showdownable hand, a nice pot and a somewhat sane opponant, I check.

Preflop I don't mind. I think a lot of people resort to mantras on this point rather than allowing that there may be occasions for limping.

cuQa · #9 05-22-2007, 06:05 AM

32 went to showdown .. he would 100% sure call the riverbet with AQ ..

and maybe even worse hands because that guy c/c all the way from flop with nutflush.

Waingro · #10 05-22-2007, 08:00 AM

I am also not a fan of pf but w/e. I think you should 4bet the flop, your hand is unlikely to improve and a lot more hands call on the flop compared to the river. As played I would check behind river.