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Old 05-20-2007, 02:58 PM
Zeestein Zeestein is offline
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Default oesd vs weak/tight/passive - live, 250bb

5/10 live, 2.5k stacks but MP and I are ~6k deep and I want to play hands vs MP. Villain have been extremely passive in the 90 or so minutes he's sat (I've seen him limp/call AKs), and I think he's made bad folds vs bluffy lines a couple of times. Generally he's noticeably tigher postflop than the rest of the table. He's taken down some pots with flop bets. I haven't really done too much too noticeable with him on the table, my image should be standard TAG.

Villain limps UTG, someone else limps, MP raises to $50, I call with QTs in CO, folds to big blind who calls, the two limpers call. So 5 to a flop of:

KJ6r. Big blind checks, villain bets $200 into $250, folds around to me, do what? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 05-20-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: oesd vs weak/tight/passive - live, 250bb

call?
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Old 05-20-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: oesd vs weak/tight/passive - live, 250bb

but he weak/tight!

but he handrange strong! but weak/tight!

I dunno if he brokeback on A/9 turn!!!!
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Old 05-20-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: oesd vs weak/tight/passive - live, 250bb

Fold pf. A weak tight range raising over a bunch of limpers has you slaughtered plus it could always get raised behind you. I guess I'd raise here as a default if he is weak tight, but I'm not sure how much FE we have on this board texture vs. this opponent after he has showed so much strength.

I guess his range is maybe TT-AA/AKs - but apparently he likes to limp call with it (AK) so maybe that can even be discounted somewhat.
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Old 05-20-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: oesd vs weak/tight/passive - live, 250bb

Dude, donkish MP w ~6k raised, nitty UTG villain called after everyone called. I can fold QTs here but only if I'm eating, and only if what I'm eating is super tasty.
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Old 05-20-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: oesd vs weak/tight/passive - live, 250bb

Oh nm, I thought you were 250bb deep??

I prob call given we are so deep. Implied odds should be good vs. his range which I think is reasonable. (this is the dude w/6k?)
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Old 05-20-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: oesd vs weak/tight/passive - live, 250bb

Loooks like a pretty clear call, I think raising is awful as his range sounds like it is weighted heavily towards sets or KJ.
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Old 05-20-2007, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: oesd vs weak/tight/passive - live, 250bb

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Loooks like a pretty clear call, I think raising is awful as his range sounds like it is weighted heavily towards things that arent folding to a raise and will pay off when u hit.

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Old 05-20-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: oesd vs weak/tight/passive - live, 250bb

do guys like these even bet AK into the field if they had it here?

I felt that was a decent part of his range and he's never calling a raise w AK, and that he'll never 3-bet/shove KJ/set vs a raise, so I raised to $600

Basic plan was to put no more money in unless I hit, and shove any Ace and valuebet a 9
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