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Old 05-19-2007, 02:45 PM
bubaloo bubaloo is offline
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Default NL50 - AA facing c-r

Villain is 35/2.7 over 73 hands, no reads.
Ive had situations like this loads, but this is the first time ive posted one:

$0.25/$0.5 Blinds No Limit Hold'em

Total number of players : 6
Hero ( $59.25 )
SB ( $14.95 )
BB ( $49.49 )
UTG ( $30.6 )
MP ( $52.56 )
CO ( $59.9 )

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Ah Ac. SB post a blind of $0.25 BB post a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls [$0.5], <font color="#666666">2 fold</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $1.50

Flop:($6.50) 6c, Qs, 10s <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.5</font>, <font color="#666666">SB folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $10</font>, Hero...

Pot is $21, villain has $18.60 left.
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Old 05-19-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA facing c-r

He Limped and called your Preflop raise, most likely with Marginal hands as he didnt raise this time (only 2.7% of hands), so QT, Q6s, 66, maybe TT although a preflop raise is more likely. TP hands (KQ, Q9, Q8) are less likely but you havent given any info as to his aggression levels so...

More importantly, how do you not have a read on this guy after 73 hands...at all. More attention needed i reckon.

Good luck
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Old 05-19-2007, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA facing c-r

this is a tough spot,

so IMO what you're concerned with here is whether or not you're ahead of his range. It's really hard to discover intricate tendencies like what your opponent CR's with on a board like this. Given that, QQ\TT will generally be raised preflop, and with two spades and Q,T on the board there are plenty of draws present. At the same time, a flop CR can be a sign of a lot of strength, so folding here isn't completely out of the question.

If you push, he is most likely folding a lot of hands that you beat, and calling with hands that beat you\have a lot of outs. You could consider calling and raising\pushing a safe turn (if you think you're ahead). However, there are a ton of scary cards which could kill your action\cause you to fold a winner.

I try not to make a habit out of folding aces at NL50, so in this spot I probably push. If villain had more money (only has about $17 left), I might call and reevaluate turn.
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Old 05-20-2007, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA facing c-r

shove flop
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA facing c-r

eh shove is bit of an overbet don't you think?
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA facing c-r

SHOVE flop...I will never fold AA in this situation vs this villain...UTG ONLY has a 60BB stack,draw heavy board,and UTG was a weak limper...
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA facing c-r

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eh shove is bit of an overbet don't you think?

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NO..Villain only has about $18 left behind...
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA facing c-r

Shove is never an overbet. Shove is a shove.
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - AA facing c-r

Thanks for the quick responses.

Villians AF was 1.57
My thinking was that villians range was q10,kjs,66 and sometimes AQ.
I am terrible at folding overpairs and as villian was fairly short-stacked, I moved in on him, he insta-called and flipped over 6s6h for bottom set.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.449% 42.23% 00.22% 7526 38.50 { AcAh }
Hand 1: 57.551% 57.33% 00.22% 10217 38.50 { 66, KsJs, QTs, AQo, QTo }

When he C-r $10 I was pretty sure I was beat, as usually happens when its overpair vs set. Looking at the stove results, it seems to be the right move (Given his stack size). I just want to be able to start folding overpairs before I move up to higher limits.

What sort of stack size would villain have to have to justify folding after his C-r?
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