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Old 05-18-2007, 02:11 PM
Rick Diesel Rick Diesel is offline
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Default First Hand of Stars $100K - Huge Flop

Very first hand of $100K, so no reads at all. How do I maximize value when I hit the flop this hard? Anyone raise the flop?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed)

Button (t2000)
SB (t2000)
BB (t2000)
UTG (t2000)
UTG+1 (t2000)
MP1 (t2000)
MP2 (t2000)
CO (t2000)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
5 folds, Hero raises to t60, SB calls t50, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t180) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets t140, 1 fold, Hero calls t140.

Turn: (t460) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t420, SB folds.
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: First Hand of Stars $100K - Huge Flop

Raise flop and you maximize vs 666, 444, 333, 55, any smaller flushes.. calling only really maximizes vs like.. a K high flush draw maybe?
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: First Hand of Stars $100K - Huge Flop

Yeah I'd raise the flop.
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: First Hand of Stars $100K - Huge Flop

You're raising naked A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on that flop, right? So raise this.
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: First Hand of Stars $100K - Huge Flop

Yeah, unpaired-board nut flush draw holds more 'nut' value than flopping a nut flush, because of the way the board can pair giving someone a full house. You're far from invincible here and should raise this flop.
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: First Hand of Stars $100K - Huge Flop

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Yeah, unpaired-board nut flush draw holds more 'nut' value than flopping a nut flush, because of the way the board can pair giving someone a full house. You're far from invincible here and should raise this flop.

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Old 05-18-2007, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: First Hand of Stars $100K - Huge Flop

I like a flop raise for the same reasons the others said, but also because that raise takes the nut flush out of your range for a lot of players, and you can often get a lot of action from worse hands.

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Old 05-18-2007, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: First Hand of Stars $100K - Huge Flop

raise the flop to 400 total
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Old 05-18-2007, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: First Hand of Stars $100K - Huge Flop

I like a smallish flop raise. You can get it all in vs a set or a smaller flush. You can keep a draw hanging around..
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