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#3
05-18-2007, 03:43 PM
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Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
All other pocket pairs or lower suited connectors, which is the majority of his range. I find cold calling with dominated hands like KQ/KJ/QJ more rare in the $200+ unless there were a lot of satelitte entries.
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#4
05-18-2007, 06:52 PM
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Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
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All other pocket pairs or lower suited connectors, which is the majority of his range. I find cold calling with dominated hands like KQ/KJ/QJ more rare in the $200+ unless there were a lot of satelitte entries. [/ QUOTE ] A dude calls for almost 20% of his stack preflop and you're assuming that small pairs and suited connectors are a MAJORITY of his range?
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#5
05-18-2007, 06:59 PM
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Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
Pre-flop:
Tony Pisser raises to 925. hyeran kim folds. rockets_Ifold folds. PecosJeana folds. blury222 folds. JohnnyBax goes all-in for 7260. Maria Nuccia folds. G S X R folds. RagnarPirate folds. Ulty_Dude folds. Tony Pisser calls. Tournament all-in showdown -- players show: JohnnyBax shows Ah Ks. Tony Pisser shows 7d 7h. Flop (board: 8h Qd Td): (no action in this round) Turn (board: 8h Qd Td As): (no action in this round) River (board: 8h Qd Td As 7c): (no action in this round) Showdown: JohnnyBax has Ah Ks Qd Td As: a pair of aces. Tony Pisser has 7d 7h Qd As 7c: three sevens. Hand #42568696-163 Summary: No rake is taken for this hand. Tony Pisser wins 15220 with three sevens. I was surprised to see 77. Bax
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#6
05-18-2007, 07:09 PM
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Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
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Pre-flop: Tony Pisser raises to 925. hyeran kim folds. rockets_Ifold folds. PecosJeana folds. blury222 folds. JohnnyBax goes all-in for 7260. Maria Nuccia folds. G S X R folds. RagnarPirate folds. Ulty_Dude folds. Tony Pisser calls. Tournament all-in showdown -- players show: JohnnyBax shows Ah Ks. Tony Pisser shows 7d 7h. Flop (board: 8h Qd Td): (no action in this round) Turn (board: 8h Qd Td As): (no action in this round) River (board: 8h Qd Td As 7c): (no action in this round) Showdown: JohnnyBax has Ah Ks Qd Td As: a pair of aces. Tony Pisser has 7d 7h Qd As 7c: three sevens. Hand #42568696-163 Summary: No rake is taken for this hand. Tony Pisser wins 15220 with three sevens. I was surprised to see 77. Bax [/ QUOTE ] The point is that I'm not surprised to see AK.
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#7
05-18-2007, 07:46 PM
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Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
What do we think our equity is in the OP's hand if we check against an unknown opponent and they have 22-77 or some other hand that almost surely wouldn't call a flop bet. Or more specifically, how much less often will we win the pot than if we had bet the flop. Assume we win 100% against that range if we bet the flop, do we now win 50%? 70%? They surely won't bluff every time (I think they are more likely not to bluff) and we can improve when they check the flop or take the pot away later.
Anyway I'm curious what people think will happen when we check against non-calling hands.
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#8
05-18-2007, 07:53 PM
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Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
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Anyway I'm curious what people think will happen when we check against non-calling hands. [/ QUOTE ] Either they bet or they don't, with don't being the larger part of the range, but when they bet its a disaster. There are not a lot of chips left on the flop you have one bet to take it and the flop is usually the best spot.
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#9
05-18-2007, 07:30 PM
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Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
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Pre-flop: Tony Pisser raises to 925. hyeran kim folds. rockets_Ifold folds. PecosJeana folds. blury222 folds. JohnnyBax goes all-in for 7260. Maria Nuccia folds. G S X R folds. RagnarPirate folds. Ulty_Dude folds. Tony Pisser calls. Tournament all-in showdown -- players show: JohnnyBax shows Ah Ks. Tony Pisser shows 7d 7h. Flop (board: 8h Qd Td): (no action in this round) Turn (board: 8h Qd Td As): (no action in this round) River (board: 8h Qd Td As 7c): (no action in this round) Showdown: JohnnyBax has Ah Ks Qd Td As: a pair of aces. Tony Pisser has 7d 7h Qd As 7c: three sevens. Hand #42568696-163 Summary: No rake is taken for this hand. Tony Pisser wins 15220 with three sevens. I was surprised to see a pair, much less two cards resembling a hand, or even a Jack maybe even suited cards but 77 how do i hit the top of your range? Bax [/ QUOTE ]
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#10
05-18-2007, 07:03 PM
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Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
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A dude calls for almost 20% of his stack preflop and you're assuming that small pairs and suited connectors are a MAJORITY of his range? [/ QUOTE ] Pairs QQ and smaller are the majority of his range. Throw in a couple of connectors too, but not that many. Is dude calling off 20% of his stack with KQ or KJ?
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