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Old 05-17-2007, 07:33 PM
willw9 willw9 is offline
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Default 100NL - Just checkin\'

Since nobody would respond in the cheese thread...

Villain running 40/0 over 71

This is standard right?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">Hero (SB): $99.00</font>
BB: $30.95
UTG: $37.35
MP: $101.50
CO: $94.00
BTN: $86.45

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $1.00, BTN calls $1.00, Hero calls $0.50, BB checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($4) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, BB folds, CO calls $3.50, BTN folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($11) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, CO calls $8.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($27) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $27.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $81.50</font>, Hero calls $54.50

Pot Size: $190.00 ($3 Rake)

B/C &gt;&gt; C/C on river?
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:44 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: 100NL - Just checkin\'

B/f for about $21 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt ; any other line.
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Just checkin\'

WTSD #'s and aggro #'s would help a lot here, so he's kinda loose and doesn't raise much preflop, that's not the question here.

I think I might check/call the river here, it seems weak but getting raised here really sucks and I'm hoping he will bluff or vb his AK with Kh, once you bet here I think you probably have to call unless he's super nitty and passive
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Old 05-17-2007, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Just checkin\'

You HAVE to v-bet the river here. He will call you down with so many hands that even if you value bet and call the push or value bet fold to the push it is always more + ev to val bet than to check call. Remember his push here is very rare. The majority of the time you are ahead and he will just call the v-bet.

That said I think you can fold the rare occasions that he does push. You have shown a lot of strength betting every street and there isn't a lot that he would play this way that you can beat. Plus he isn't aggressive. I think he has the flush here 90% of the time and it will generally be the nuts.

Value bet and fold to the push is the best line.
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Just checkin\'

I would check/call river. Definitely folding to the rr allin on the river.
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Just checkin\'

I reach in my pocket and find a river fold, yo.
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Just checkin\'

We are getting about 3:1. We really think we are good &lt;25% of the time?
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Just checkin\'

i think a really large % of the time we're getting showed a flush here
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:00 PM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default Re: 100NL - Just checkin\'

Not standard; your bet sizing kind of sucks, too. Do you really think he's bluffing when you jam the "bet pot" button on the river after betting &lt;pot on every other street? If he will call this large a bet on the end, you should've been betting more on the earlier streets. In any case, river is a clear bet/fold (or bet smaller to induce a bluffraise and then bet/call).
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:03 PM
Don Key E37 Don Key E37 is offline
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Default Re: 100NL - Just checkin\'

I don't think c/c is bad at all on the river but could see b/f also. C/c might get a missed flush draw or two pair to bet on a bluff when it would otherwise fold, and I think this is better than having to bet and fold a set to a poor player, which can be tough to do (for me at least).
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