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Old 05-17-2007, 03:08 PM
TexRef TexRef is offline
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Default NL100 - Broadway and nut flush draw on turn - how to extract the max?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($93.50)
UTG ($121.50)
UTG+1 ($18.50)
MP1 ($36.40)
MP2 ($72.15)
MP3 ($122.25)
CO ($98.05)
Button ($176.25)
Hero ($99)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, MP1 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $4.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $4, MP2 calls $3.

Anyone fold this here with the potential reraise coming?

Flop: ($22) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $7.

Donk call on the flop?

Turn: ($43) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $18</font>

Hero?

Call and try to bring the third guy along? Raise? Shove?
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Old 05-17-2007, 03:25 PM
niffe9 niffe9 is offline
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Default Re: NL100 - Broadway and nut flush draw on turn - how to extract the max?

preflop: If opponents put their money in bad it's ok I guess
flop: any reads? What does this very small cbet mean? If it could definitely be two pair+ then call looks good. If he is likely to have not much then fold is probably good.
turn: It seems likely that villain is very strong here leading into muiltiple people on a dangerous board twice. Raise it up. Don't worry about losing value from the other guy. You can raise a little less then shove in case the other thinks he has a live draw.
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Old 05-17-2007, 03:28 PM
aceDeuceWes aceDeuceWes is offline
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Default Re: NL100 - Broadway and nut flush draw on turn - how to extract the m

A fold preflop and fold on the flop seems best. In both cases you arn't closing the action and have a speculative hand. On the turn now that you hit your gin card go allin, its only about a potsized raise.

Calling the flop is bad because even when you hit your dream card you may not get any action, and if someone has a set they have a redraw on the river anyways. Basically you need to make about 11:1 on your $7 call on the flop. This is tough to do unless you stack someone almost every time.

Disclaimer: I don't play full ring.
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Old 05-17-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: NL100 - Broadway and nut flush draw on turn - how to extract the m

Fold the flop. Your hand sucks and there are 2 people to act behind you.

As played, lead the turn. You don't want this to be checked around and you have 2 customers and plenty of worse hands that will call but may not bet themselves.
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Old 05-17-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: NL100 - Broadway and nut flush draw on turn - how to extract the m

Yeah -- the hand worked out, but after I was looking at it, I thought it's probably a fold PF and on the flop.

I raised the turn to $50 and they both folded.

Comments on raise amount?
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