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Old 05-17-2007, 03:18 AM
Hoop Addict Hoop Addict is offline
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Default My Squeeze got called. How do I proceed?

In the SB with A9o, 6 handed. Blinds are 2K/4K no antes.

Stacks of those in the hand:

Me (SB) ~125K
UTG - ~95K
Button - ~105K

UTG is a lagtard & min-raises to 8K. Folds to button who flat calls. I bump it to 30K assuming the lagtard is just being that & having seen the button call UTG's raises before & steal pots from him postflop.

UTG flatcalls my raise & button folds.

Flop is K 8 4 rainbow.

How do I proceed? Do I fire at the flop? If so, how much for? I've got about ~95K left behind at this point & UTG has ~65K.

Also - 1) is a squeeze an acceptable play here, considering if I get called I'll be playing it OOP & 2) was 30K the correct amount to squeeze with there?
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Old 05-17-2007, 03:26 AM
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Default Re: My Squeeze got called. How do I proceed?

Given your read, he is not folding ever. Check fold. Also, I wouldn't bluff a loose station.
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Old 05-17-2007, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: My Squeeze got called. How do I proceed?

i'd just shove... BTW, i'd rather just shove PF in a spot like this
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:35 AM
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Default Re: My Squeeze got called. How do I proceed?

If you're pushing, I would shove preflop instead of that raise.
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: My Squeeze got called. How do I proceed?

I'm not normally coy like this, but I think a pf shove with 30BBs and no antes to win 5BBs is yucky.
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: My Squeeze got called. How do I proceed?

Fold preflop. The stack sizes are not right for a squeeze and you don't bluff a calling station.

As played, you have to push the flop. You may be ahead.
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Old 05-17-2007, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: My Squeeze got called. How do I proceed?

a) squeeze a little more 35-40g
b)give up if he stinks he cant fold. i dont like to bluff the unbluffable once theyve committed good amt of chips. he has a legit hand here. im not afraid to bluff but i also am not afraid to call off the dogs if i feel my play wont work. this is where gut comes in if i get that feeling i can bully him ill fire at it
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Old 05-17-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: My Squeeze got called. How do I proceed?

By lagtard do you mean that UTG does not have fold discipline? If that's the case check-fold this flop. If you've seen him make some laydowns then shove this flop.

Like "registrar" I don't like a preflop shove with the size of your stack. Your M is high enough that you can still play poker even if you fold postflop here.
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Old 05-17-2007, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: My Squeeze got called. How do I proceed?

46k in pot and it is 22k for him to call. He has good odds on his money...I don't see how you are going to get a minraise from UTG to fold with that small of a bet....especially when he will have position on you.

You either have to give up on the hand or put him to a much harder decision.
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Old 05-17-2007, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: My Squeeze got called. How do I proceed?

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Fold preflop. The stack sizes are not right for a squeeze and you don't bluff a calling station.

As played, you have to push the flop. You may be ahead.

[/ QUOTE ]

What could you be ahead of? This would be a text book bluff.
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