playing a suited connector out of position opinions?

[hamnegger]

do you agree w my limp? do you agree w my preflop call? how do you play this flop?

ill post my play and result later

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $15/$30
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1560
UTG+1: $1470
MP1: $1455
MP2: $1425
hamnegger: $1485
CO: $1665
Button: $1560
SB: $1470
BB: $1410

Pre-flop: (9 players) hamnegger is MP3 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, hamnegger calls $30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $45)</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $135</font>, 2 folds, hamnegger calls $105 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $210)</font>.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($315, 2 players)

im first whats my move?

[betgo]

Whether the limp is OK depends on the buyin and your style. I would usually fold.

I would fold to the raise. Here fold &gt; limpreraise &gt; call. He raised from the button, so he may be weak, so limpreraising representing a big pair is possible. I wouldn't mind calling if the pot was multiway. Calling is donk/calling station style. If you have a huge skill advantage postflop, calling may be profitable.

Do you think villain will bet this flop. If so, go for a checkraise. Otherwise lead out about 250.

[Popped Rod]

Wrong forum but this should have been folded after Button's PF raise. Most suited connectors should be played multiway so that the pots odds make it worthwhile.

As played, I don't mind either a check/call to see if you improve. You have a lot of outs. Depending on how aggressive CO is, a check raise might take down the pot if he only has over cards and t5hinks you hit your set.

[BarryLyndon]

Hamnegger,

You're a good poster, so I think you know what everyone is going to say. Fold preflop, fold to raise. On the flop, I CRAI. Try to get some value out of AK/AQ and some FE against 99 and 1010. If you bet now, all higher pairs are gonna CRAI to you anyway (except maybe 99); anything else, save for a club draw, is going to fold and you miss out on value.

Edit: Tailored for STT strategy (wrong forum) + assuming no reads

[hamnegger]

im a smallballer betgo i don't like the limp reraise. i like to see lots of flops early and hopefully get value from weak players when i flop something.

[james129]

barry already said it

[hamnegger]

if the hand occurred in mtt why is it stt forum hand?

[registrar]

I don't mind the limp. I raise anything I'm playing in general with these stacks and blinds but I'm not sure why. There are enough randoms who limp big hands and enough randoms who can't read action/hands that I think limping is fine. I think limp/folding is really bad unless you're faced with an outlandish raise. The whole point of limping is to see a flop relatively cheaply with a hand that is not particularly well defined to your opponent when his hand is relatively well defined to you.

Love this flop. I think, in general, you won't get to three bet here. And overpair is going to bring down the hammer pretty hard given the texture so I'd CR.

[betgo]

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im a smallballer betgo i don't like the limp reraise. i like to see lots of flops early and hopefully get value from weak players when i flop something.

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I was half-joking. The limpreraise would be reasonable here at high buyin. since this is probably microbuyin, it would be awful.

[TyFuji]

Raise or fold IMO, looks like a decent spot to pick up a small pot early and chip up.