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Old 05-16-2007, 07:21 PM
Caruso Caruso is offline
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Default ps 3/6 obvious trips vs ipokeder, he still shoves

as the subject already says, the only thing that confuses me in this hand is my turnplay telegraphes my hand and he still shoves. would you start deeeep levelthinking here, just fold or **** it and call (~1275$ pot, ~420$ behind)? oh and, comments on my turn c/r appreciated

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($191)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($844.15)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO ($1323.65)</font>
Button ($657.95)
SB ($662.40)
BB ($796.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, CO calls $24, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($57) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $42</font>, CO calls $42.

Turn: ($141) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $114</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $360</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1257.65</font>, Hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: ps 3/6 obvious trips vs ipokeder, he still shoves

WTF? CALL YOU HAVE TRIPS

WHY WOULD YOU FOLD TRIPS THAT IS THREE OF A KIND/?!!?!?

ace queen

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Old 05-16-2007, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: ps 3/6 obvious trips vs ipokeder, he still shoves

oh i would like to point out that you beat two pair and all flush draws
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: ps 3/6 obvious trips vs ipokeder, he still shoves

why would you play your hand in a manner that makes it obvious what you have when there is still a lot of money left to be bet?
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:44 PM
skegvegaspoker skegvegaspoker is offline
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Default Re: ps 3/6 obvious trips vs ipokeder, he still shoves

If his range his all the hands that are ahead of you, and AJ, then you are almost priced in. Add in the occasional FD and SD+FD etc and you are good to call.

I don't like check-raising the turn too much personally, unless you and villain have had a lot of history in being aggro in these types of pots and showing down bluffs etc.
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: ps 3/6 obvious trips vs ipokeder, he still shoves

Take AK out of the mixer aswell because of preflop and now we are really good to call.
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: ps 3/6 obvious trips vs ipokeder, he still shoves

Check-pushing &gt;&gt;&gt; check-raising.

But I like a check-call.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: ps 3/6 obvious trips vs ipokeder, he still shoves

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why would you play your hand in a manner that makes it obvious what you have when there is still a lot of money left to be bet?

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Old 05-16-2007, 08:44 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: ps 3/6 obvious trips vs ipokeder, he still shoves

check/call, check/call looks good to me. Or bet. but once you get here, def call. even if you're beat you have outs. and you're ahead a lot. and if check/raising this turn means you have to have trips, then why are you check/raising?
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: ps 3/6 obvious trips vs ipokeder, he still shoves

isn't ipokeder a huge nit? Then c/c , c/c is fine
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