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Old 05-16-2007, 05:23 PM
ir0nphist ir0nphist is offline
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Default 400NL - how to handle QQ w/ bad flop after i 4 bet it OOP

villain is 22/18/2 and not afraid to 3bet me w/ less than premium hands. I am 25/18/2.5.
When he calls my 4 bet I have to believe he has JJ-AA, AK. With that range in mind. . . what do I do on this flop? Should I just c/f? Should I shove the flop & hope to get KK & QQ to fold?
I hate my turn bet. . . it was pointless, anything I hoped to accomplish with it would have worked better on the flop.



Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($501)
UTG ($400)
Hero ($481.70)
Button ($394)
SB ($400)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $42</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $146</font>, Button calls $90.

Flop: ($284) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($284) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $180</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $262 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $726
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:25 PM
UP UR IQ UP UR IQ is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - how to handle QQ w/ bad flop after i 4 bet it OOP

I don't mind the 4bet but please shut down on this flop.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:25 PM
wtf5 wtf5 is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - how to handle QQ w/ bad flop after i 4 bet it OOP

you spewed off 180 dollars
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:37 PM
freekie freekie is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - how to handle QQ w/ bad flop after i 4 bet it OOP

when he calls my 4 bet I have to believe he has JJ-AA, AK. With that range in mind

look at the range

look at the board

you only have a split against his QQ and maybe he once in a while folds KK
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:47 PM
jpsnow jpsnow is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - how to handle QQ w/ bad flop after i 4 bet it OOP

check check check check check check check - - FOLD
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