2nd hand of Mulligan - AA vs Check Raise?

[DonT77]

Full Tilt Poker Game #2418193453: The Sunday Mulligan (17683970), Table 1 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:07:13 ET - 2007/05/13
Seat 1: Balderdashin22 (2,990)
Seat 2: MrDracula (2,980)
Seat 3: LJJones (3,980)
Seat 4: tigerrabbit (3,000)
Seat 5: nachopolo (2,050)
Seat 6: DeuceBuster (3,000)
Seat 7: mastrblastr (3,000)
Seat 8: DonT77 (3,000)
MrDracula posts the small blind of 10
LJJones posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DonT77 [Ac Ad]
tigerrabbit calls 20
nachopolo calls 20
DeuceBuster folds
mastrblastr folds
DonT77 raises to 110
Balderdashin22 folds
MrDracula folds
LJJones calls 90
tigerrabbit folds
nachopolo calls 90
*** FLOP *** [7h 5h 8s] (pot = 360)
LJJones checks
nachopolo checks
DonT77 bets 360
LJJones raises to 1,100
nachopolo folds
DonT77 ?

[registrar]

I go broke.

[DDBeast]

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I go broke.

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[LearnedfromTV]

too many ugly turn cards, shovem, stack TT. Or get stacked by 88. He can have big hearts too; your not holding the ace is probably good here, even though it takes away a bd draw vs sets.

[DonT77]

My thought here is that the BB is more likely calling a Pot-sized PFR with 55-88 than suited connectors, since SCs are so much harder to play OOP. That said, 87 has me beat and hands like 98 and 76 are virtual coin-flips. TT-KK probably re-raises PF, and those are about the only hands that I want to see here.

I saw this as most likely a CF/WB (coin flip or way behind) situation and folded. I also had reservations about stacking off this deep with a hand that can easily be read as an overpair.

The implication, of course, is that by folding I give the BB probably more FE than he deserves - making it a strong play from the BBs POV when you know that the PFRer is capable of folding a large overpair. (Also note that calling the PFR with a hand like ATs-AKs from the BB is probably stronger than you might think because you are encouraging a multi-way flop by giving odds to the limpers behind you. ATF, a CR represents a set, or you can semi-bluff if you catch a decent flop. There's also the possibility that LP is raising light and/or C-betting with whiffed overcards.)

Thoughts on the fold or thoughts on calling a PSR from the BB with hands like ATs/AJs early on?

[registrar]

I'm not sure your line is clearly enough an overpair that you should fold here. You've raised a couple of limpers and then c-bet - I don't think your range is much narrower on the flop than it was before. He can easily have a smaller and connected underpair or big hearts.

[Bond18]

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too many ugly turn cards, shovem, stack TT. Or get stacked by 88. He can have big hearts too; your not holding the ace is probably good here, even though it takes away a bd draw vs sets.

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Bingo. Plus various retards with sets flat call this flop way to much despite its texture.

[DonT77]

Okay, it doesn't seem like anybody wants to fold here. If that is the case, wouldn't it be better to peel one and then jam on any non-heart? Thoughts on this line?

[Flatlanman3]

why bet the pot... thats giving away ur hand and asking to get stacked. I prefer a check or a bet of about 200. Makes ur decisions much easier

[EC10]

havent we pretty much announced our hand as strong overpair here? and we're still getting check raised even after we PSB it?

i think LLJones is a regular (the name is familiar to me anyway) so i don't mind a fold here at all and im usually not one to fold AA in tourneys.