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Old 05-14-2007, 08:31 PM
iBETuLOST iBETuLOST is offline
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Here is a link directly to the Florida Government Web Site listing all the Bills and amendments.

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/B...ssionId=54&

Here are the key changes from the Bills which PASSED in case you do not want to read them all.

(b) The cardroom operator may limit the amount wagered
in any game or series of games, but the maximum bet may not exceed $10 in value. There may not be more than three raises in any round of betting. The fee charged by the cardroom for participation in the game shall not be included in the calculation of the limitation on the bet amount provided in this paragraph.

However, a cardroom operator may conduct games
of Texas Hold-em without a betting limit if the required
player buy-in is no more than $100.

c) A tournament shall consist of a series of games.
The entry fee for a tournament, including any re-buys, may not exceed the maximum amount that could be wagered by a
participant in 10 like-kind, nontournament games under
paragraph (b)

d) A cardroom operator may award giveaways, jackpots,
and prizes to a player who holds certain combinations of cards specified by the cardroom operator

Any horserace, greyhound, or jai alai permitholder
licensed under this chapter may operate a cardroom at its
pari-mutuel facility between the hours of 10 a.m. and 2 a.m.

HIGH-STAKES POKER TOURNAMENTS
a) A cardroom operator may host a televised
high-stakes poker tournament twice each year for 1 week at a
pari-mutuel facility that is authorized to operate cardrooms
during the hours that the pari-mutuel facility is open to
conduct business. Such a tournament may be conducted only once in any 6-month period.

I agree that the wording of "a required player buy-in is no more than $100." For non tournament NL Games is unclear because it dosn't set a max buyin.
It was most likely meant to limit the amount a player could lose on a given hand and will most likely and should be clarified to include a max buy-in.

Anyway this is a monumental leap forward from what we had!!!
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Old 05-14-2007, 09:42 PM
Rabid_Hippo Rabid_Hippo is offline
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The only bills in your list that actually passed were SB 752 - related to $5 limits and the "may conduct games of Texas Hold-em without a betting limit if the required player buy-in is no more than $100" language we've been discussing - and SB 134 - related to dominoes.

The $10 bet limit and the high-stakes poker tournament bills failed to pass.

Only bills listed as "Enrolled" passed both houses and were sent to the Governor. The Governor typically has 7 days to veto a bill (15 if enrolled and transmitted at the end of a legislative session - which is the case with SB 752). If he fails to veto the enrolled bill, it automatically becomes law ... or he can sign the bill into law.
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:00 AM
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New user here. Hippo, i've been reading all your posts and thank you for all the info.

I live in Orlando.

Is Orlando going to implement these Jai Lai and dog track opportunities or they going to continue to be a Disney bitch?

I have to go to Daytona or Melbourne now to play.

Sure would be nice if we got some no limit in O'town.
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:09 AM
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This bill applies to the entire state. It would be up to your local card room whether or not they wanted to take advantage of the new higher betting limits. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't, unless there is a city ordinance that overrides the state laws.
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:11 AM
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Thanks.

Does anybody out there know if Seminole or Orange County or the city has ordinances prohibiting this?

(I smell a stinky mouse)
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:16 AM
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None that I am aware of. Last I heard the Orlando Sanford Kennel Club was trying to acquire a poker room license but was being opposed by the neighboring church. I don't know the status of that but it would be nice to not have to drive out to Melbourne. How does the Daytona Beach room compare?
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:00 AM
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Personally, I like it better. It's smaller, and the decor isn't as nice. Just personal preference.

As far as the play. WILD. I'm a patient player and I do ok. Give it a shot.

Oh, and the women at Daytona are better looking. Their play is about the same.
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:20 PM
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Re: Daytona vs Melbourne...I live closer to Daytona but prefer Melbourne. Facilty is nicer, the tourneys are superior (as far as turbos go) compared to Daytona.
They have a Omaha Hi/Lo going most of the time. I personally noticed that the players aren't as loose as Daytona fish. At least I don't get as many bad beats in Melbourne. The dealers are for the most part faster in Melbourne and they don't have as many acounting rules to follow.
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Old 05-15-2007, 02:21 PM
Rabid_Hippo Rabid_Hippo is offline
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Another poster in the other thread about this bill accurately pointed out that the legislature hasn't sent the bill to the Governor yet ... so the clock on his signature or veto hasn't started to run. There's no real standard on when a passed bill has to be sent to the Governor (other than a "reasonable" amount of time) ... so we're still going to have to wait for a few weeks to see what happens with this bill.
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:52 PM
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True. But I remember during the election, Christ was the only candidate to not be polarized on the card/casino thing. Jeb was vehemently against it, Christ was on record saying he really didn't care either way and it would be up to the people.

Not sure how this change got started, but I'm sure it was the parimutuels who started it the day Christ got in office.
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