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Old 05-14-2007, 06:38 PM
Not.Fade.Away Not.Fade.Away is offline
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Default 100NL | AA 4bet, whats the magic number?

MP is 20/14/1.7 over 400 hands, Button is 50/3.2/0.4 over 300 hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($105.85)
BB ($132.40)
Hero ($375.15)
MP ($95.50)
Button ($177.93)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $11</font>, Button calls $11, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to [insert $ amount here]</font>

So how much do I raise? MP should have picked up on the fact that I 3bet more than usual when button is in the pot, especially when OOP, nothing crazy though. FWIW Ive been running at a nitty 16/12/4 on this table, and its quite possible that MP uses a HUD.
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:40 PM
Imrahil Imrahil is offline
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Default Re: 100NL | AA 4bet, whats the magic number?

Raise to like $60.
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: 100NL | AA 4bet, whats the magic number?

I usually go $50-60
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: 100NL | AA 4bet, whats the magic number?

$50. You're not looking to get MP's money (though it's fine if he you do), you want to keep Button in.
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: 100NL | AA 4bet, whats the magic number?

button is deep stacked and we don't want to give him good odds to set mine. $60.
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: 100NL | AA 4bet, whats the magic number?

I like $60....but what does everybody think about a push here?
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: 100NL | AA 4bet, whats the magic number?

I think a push is too much considering button's stack. I also like a raise to $45-50. I think anything above $50 will just blow button out of the pot.
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: 100NL | AA 4bet, whats the magic number?

He raises your open by 3x's so we raise his repop by 3 x's roughly 28/32 is fine or go for the donk bet push all in some times A-Ks QQ calls [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:27 PM
.KeviN. .KeviN. is offline
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Default Re: 100NL | AA 4bet, whats the magic number?

If button isnt a total donk hes prob only calling our 4 bet with like QQ,AKs...and if he gets a bad flop he can fold. Im not hating on pushing in the spot bc I think it maximizes our value from QQ plus theres always a slim chance he can always be 1 of those guys who thinks you wouldnt do this with a huge hand and decides to be a hero and call you with less..
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