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Old 05-13-2007, 09:00 AM
DND DND is offline
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Default NL100 AK TPTK OOP 3-bet pot vs 18/11

Position(Stack):
vp$ip foldbb ats pfr
af w$sd wts hands

MP2 (293.85):
18 33 41 11
2.2 67 26 209

BB (129.50)
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0.50/1 No-Limit Hold'em <font color="blue">(6 handed)</font>
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">MP2 raises to $4.00</font>, MP3 calls $4.00, <font color="grey">2 folds</font>, SB calls $3.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18.00</font>, MP2 calls $14.00, <font color="grey">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($44.00) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, MP2 calls $30.00.

Turn: ($104.00) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets $50</font>, <font color="grey">Hero folds</font>.

Final Pot: $154.00

His coldcall PF w/ 2 players left to act was kinda weird. After he called my c-bet on the flop I figured he has KK+ most of the time, maybe TT or AK. Is this standard? Also, what do I do if I pick up the NFD on the turn? And how is my betsizing both PF and on the flop?
Thank you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-13-2007, 09:08 AM
Djeorge Djeorge is offline
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Default Re: NL100 AK TPTK OOP 3-bet pot vs 18/11

Pretty standard push on the turn for me. If you 3bet AK preflop then you really have to go broke on most flops where you hit TPTK. Obv he could have KK+ or TT but other than that you're ahead or chopping and you're getting quite good odds anyway (about 9:4 if he calls).
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Old 05-13-2007, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: NL100 AK TPTK OOP 3-bet pot vs 18/11

what are your stats? have you 3bet him from the blinds much? important here, but i generally agree with 1st reply here.

edit: i prefer to crai turn here. if you open shove you're only called when beat or chopping. if it goes c/c then you can lead the river.
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Old 05-13-2007, 09:13 AM
Pirelli Pirelli is offline
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Default Re: NL100 AK TPTK OOP 3-bet pot vs 18/11

With AA/KK I think he'd 4-bet preflop because by calling he might induce calls from the other 2 players which he certainly wouldn't want.

He isn't getting odds to call with lower pocket pairs, but that assumes that he knows what he is doing, I can definitely see him playing TT like this.

I think preflop betsizing is fine, I might even make it $20 because you are 130BB deep. I think the flop bet is a bit small. I would make it $35 - $40.

The problem I see on the turn is that you are often folding a split pot. I think he has AK here more often than AA/KK/TT so I don't like folding. I would push turn, this way you might force him off his AK (your line could easily be AA or KK). Also, your betsizing and turn play makes your hand look a lot like QQ IMO.

I think if you pick up the NFD, it's an even easier push, giving you 8 outs against a set/chop.
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Old 05-13-2007, 09:16 AM
PartyScout PartyScout is offline
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Default Re: NL100 AK TPTK OOP 3-bet pot vs 18/11

Any1 else thinking TT/QJs other than that i think he has same hand tricky spot [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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