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Old 05-11-2007, 06:27 PM
tradingman123 tradingman123 is offline
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Default Who 4 bets this?

20/40 Live.

Villain 1 is average 20/40 type. Villain 2 is a regular, decent, knows how to bet for value but also fold.

Villain 1 open limps, villain 2 limps in on the SB. I pick up QQ in the BB and raise. Both call.

Flop is 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Ck, I bet, 1 calls, 2 ck raises, I 3 town, 1 folds, 2 calls.

Turn is Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 bets, I raise, he 3 bets... whats my best line? Who 4 bets this?
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Who 4 bets this?

I think everyone here would 4 bet this. Call a 5th and call down if board doesn't pair.
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: Who 4 bets this?

easy 4-bet...
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Who 4 bets this?

Are you serious? He's waving a big red flag that says, "I have JT." I call the 3bet, and hope to raise his ass on a paired board river. 4betting here is just being blind.
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Old 05-11-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: Who 4 bets this?

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Are you serious? He's waving a big red flag that says, "I have JT." I call the 3bet, and hope to raise his ass on a paired board river. 4betting here is just being blind.

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i think his range could easily be a flopped set or top two pair. we are behind to 1 hand so an easy 4bet. another reason j10 is unlikely is because most live 20 players will not checkraise that flop
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Old 05-11-2007, 10:24 PM
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Are you serious? He's waving a big red flag that says, "I have JT." I call the 3bet, and hope to raise his ass on a paired board river. 4betting here is just being blind.

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So he can't have Q9? 99 88 or 33? or even 98? This is one of those hands where if he has JT, god bless him, nice hand.
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Old 05-11-2007, 10:53 PM
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So he can't have Q9? 99 88 or 33? or even 98? This is one of those hands where if he has JT, god bless him, nice hand.

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live... highly doubtful, online id 4 bet
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Old 05-11-2007, 11:50 PM
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99 or 88 would raise pre flop no? Unlikely its Q/9 since then he would have the case Q... only likely hand I am ahead is 33 that would bet/reraise this... right?
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Old 05-12-2007, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: Who 4 bets this?

Since this is live, I'd definitely just call -- pretty sure you need to boat up here.

Online I would cap, FWIW.
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Old 05-12-2007, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: Who 4 bets this?

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20/40 Live.

Villain 1 is average 20/40 type. Villain 2 is a regular, decent, knows how to bet for value but also fold.

Villain 1 open limps, villain 2 limps in on the SB. I pick up QQ in the BB and raise. Both call.

Flop is 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Ck, I bet, 1 calls, 2 ck raises, I 3 town, 1 folds, 2 calls.

Turn is Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 bets, I raise, he 3 bets... whats my best line? Who 4 bets this?

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Need a more particularized read to 4-bet this. Getting 5-bet would kinda blow. I really think he has JT, bc any good player would pound this flop w/ anything else, bc of how drawy the board is.
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