Bonds Haters: Please post why you hate Bonds

[bwana devil]

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For one, Bonds definately averages more HR per game than Williams. Not sure how you came up with the wrong number.

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youre right. i made a mistake on that. i ran the numbers in Excel from baseball-reference.com and the colums got bumped over. i used the wrong number. bonds beats williams in HR/AB and HR/game.

i wasnt trying to exclude any stats intentionally. i just threw several up there for discussion. now that i look at that stat, it was collected until the last few years of williams' carrer. bonds beats in this category hands down.

[Dids]

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it's falling into the stands because he had to run like crazy to get a ball that most ss's would have easily caught

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FYP

I know you were [censored] around, but that might have been the most overrated play ever.

[MuresanForMVP]

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it's falling into the stands because he had to run like crazy to get a ball that most ss's would have easily caught

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FYP

I know you were [censored] around, but that might have been the most overrated play ever.

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Easily. He caught the ball yet ran another 5 steps before going headlong into the stands.

[DrewDevil]

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Ted Williams was by all accounts as big a dick as Bonds he just didn't juice.

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No, he wasn't. Ted Williams had hundreds of friends and was loved by his teammates. He was just a dick to the media and somewhat cantankerous. He is not even in Bonds' league as a prick.

And he was a better hitter.

[SirArthur]

Career Stolen Bases

Bonds-510
Williams-24 (not a typo, only 24)

Bonds- 7 MVP's
Willaims- 2 MVP's

Bonds was/is probably the best defensive left fielder in the history of the game.

Even if Williams was a better hitter, Bonds is the better complete player, by far.

[kyleb]

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Bonds was/is probably the best defensive left fielder in the history of the game.

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I love Bonds and all, but this is like winning the Special Olympics.

[THAY3R]

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it's falling into the stands because he had to run like crazy to get a ball that most ss's would have easily caught

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FYP

I know you were [censored] around, but that might have been the most overrated play ever.

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Easily. He caught the ball yet ran another 5 steps before going headlong into the stands.

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BUT DUDE HE SACRIFICED HIS FACE FOR THE TEAM

[SirArthur]

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Bonds was/is probably the best defensive left fielder in the history of the game.

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I love Bonds and all, but this is like winning the Special Olympics.

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I'm sure that Lou Brock, Stan Musial, Rickey Henderson, Willie Stargell, Ted Williams, Ralph Kiner, and Billy Williams, among many many more would be thrilled that you think so highly of their defensive abilities.

[RedBean]

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And he was a better hitter.

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Bonds was a better hitter, by far, at his peak.

Hell, even now...Bonds EqA this season, at age 43, is .425.
Williams career high was .420.

Let's look at their best individual seasons:

<u>EqA above .400 (adjusted for all time, min 100 games):</u>

Bonds .456 (2004)
Bonds .453 (2002)
Bonds .427 (2001)
Williams .420 (1941)
Bonds .412 (2003)

<u>OPS above 1.200</u>
Bonds 1.422 (2004)
Bonds 1.381 (2002)
Bonds 1.379 (2001)
Williams 1.288 (1941)
Bonds 1.278 (2003)
Williams 1.257 (1957)


Simply put, at his peak, Bonds was a better hitter than Williams ever was, without a doubt.

Christ, the man holds the single season records for OBP, SLG, HR, OPS, Adjusted OPS, EqA, and Adjusted EqA.

You find a meaningful sabermetrical measurement of overall offensive performance, and it is guarenteed Bonds holds the single season record in it.

The man has no peer at the plate. Period.

[MuresanForMVP]

RedBean, you keep throwing in "at his peak", why? Do you always measure the greatness of a player by their peak alone?