Interesting hand FT of $20r 3 handed against TMay....

tiger7210 · #1 05-11-2007, 02:48 AM

A friend of mine played this hand at the FT of the $20r against Tmay. I would appreciate comments on all streets and I'll post the results later. Thanks.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t16000 (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero BB(t659017)
Button (t861244)
TMay SB (t1097239)

Preflop: Hero is with 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Button calls 16000
Tmay calls 8000
Hero checks

Flop: (t2400) T

, 2

, 8

[color=#0000FF](3 players)
SB checks, [Hero] bets t32000, Button folds, SB calls t32000.

Turn: (t66400) 4

[color=#0000FF](2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t66400) 8

[color=#0000FF](2 players)
TMay bets 80,000
Hero ?

Final Pot: t66400

the alex · #2 05-11-2007, 03:55 AM

I raise to 200k and call a shove. I'm not happy to see him overbet, but I think Tmay's attacking harder on the flop with 2 pair as opposed to check-calling. I'm trying to think of a flush he's calling PF, c/c'ing the flop and 3-bet shoving the river, though.

That said, he made me look like a real jackass in that same $20r with about 30 left. OK, I made myself into the jackass. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

registrar · #3 05-11-2007, 05:01 AM

The action (bet sizes, pot sizes etc.) aren't eactly clear. I think you need to convert the hand again ensuring that the output is set to 2+2. Anyway. I'm probably shoving the river whatever really.

tiger7210 · #4 05-11-2007, 05:16 AM

I edited the hand history in the convertor again as I guess its a bit unclear. Thanks again for your responses.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t16000 (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t659017)
Button (t861244)
SB (t1097239)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button calls t16000, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t41600) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t32000, Button folds, SB calls t32000.

Turn: (t105600) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t105600) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t105600

On the river TMay bets 80,000 from the SB
Hero?

registrar · #5 05-11-2007, 05:28 AM

I think villain is getting busier with two pair/set on the flop and our hand is somewhat underrepped. Rather than push, I think I'd raise the river pot-ish.

grafyx · #6 05-11-2007, 05:29 AM

I would bet the turn. I expect him to lead the flop with a flush draw most of the time in this situation. On the river, I would raise an amount that I think he can call with an 8, probably about 240000. Call a shove obv.

lemming · #7 05-11-2007, 05:47 AM

Interesting hand... Even though I'm concerned about the overbet, I'm raising here, to around ~200k probably. I also call a shove, but I really wouldn't like it...

grafyx · #8 05-11-2007, 05:51 AM

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Interesting hand... Even though I'm concerned about the overbet, I'm raising here, to around ~200k probably. I also call a shove, but I really wouldn't like it...

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There is no overbet, if he shoves you should be elated and instacall.

the alex · #9 05-11-2007, 05:56 AM

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Interesting hand... Even though I'm concerned about the overbet, I'm raising here, to around ~200k probably. I also call a shove, but I really wouldn't like it...

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There is no overbet, if he shoves you should be elated and instacall.

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That was just me being drunk and ignorant to the mistake in the hand conversion in the original post that says there's 66k in the middle on the river.

I'd still raise to 200k and I'd never fold to a 3-bet shove here.

tiger7210 · #10 05-11-2007, 10:30 AM

Consensus opinion so far is to reraise and call a shove which is the response i somewhat expected.

This leads me to the question of what exactly can we put TMay on. If we reraise what does he need to call here? what does he re-shove us with? What do we get him to fold?