Overpair against raise on dry board

[schwza]

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i agree; i don't really see how pushing is +ev here as i don't think he calls w/QQ.

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You have got to be [censored] me. Has 2p2 gone bonkers?

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QFT ...push

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i agree 100% that villain will call with QQ and probably with JJ and maybe some Tx hands, but if you want to stack off against the worst possible hands then i think it's best to call and check the turn. you're still going to stack a lot of those hands anyway.

[tarheeljks]

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i agree; i don't really see how pushing is +ev here as i don't think he calls w/QQ.

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You have got to be [censored] me. Has 2p2 gone bonkers?

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let's say he has QQ. we've reraised him pf, bet out and then rr'd ai on the flop. you don't think he can lay that down on this flop?

edit: i'm not saying no one will ever call our ai w/QQ, but that is the best case scenario. more likely that he turns over a set or AA. just b/c we didn't give him proper odds doesn't mean he didn't call; people love to set mine. obviously i'm not advocating folding, i just think a push is unnecessary.

[soah]

ppl that play QQ/JJ this way aren't doing it to "find out where they are at" or anything

[ArturiusX]

People love to set mine? What the [censored] kind of statement is that, relative to this hand?

[soah]

that he's trying to extract value? wtf does it sound like I mean?

[LiLApprentice]

get ur money in somehow

[ArturiusX]

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that he's trying to extract value? wtf does it sound like I mean?

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"People love to set mine" is a stupid statement, I mean, everyone set mines, even stupid lags. Its not relevant, whats relevant is his hand range and how he plays certain hands.

[soah]

I thought you were replying to me, nm

[ArturiusX]

Ah. fwiw, I agree with you too.

[UR75]

small note - he's getting 13-1 on set mining in position which should be ample especially if the RRer is tight (ie likely to have big pocket pair). Me personally I reraise tighter when raise comes from UTG or MP as most people do so this probably eliminates more of the unpaired hands though I know I would reraise auto reraise AK or AQ so the 13-1 might be just enough for him to call which is why I like a bigger reraise preflop. As played it's a tough call. I think CRai on the turn is probably what I would do since it's very dry and he might think he can get you to fold something like JJ or possibly QQ if he fires again. I feel like a push on the flop depending on your stats (ie you are not perceived as a maniac) will fold all weak hands and likely fold JJ and possibly QQ.