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Old 05-10-2007, 07:30 PM
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Default 50NL: KK on a low cards flop

Good line? Checked the turn for pot control..

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($9.25)
CO ($62.80)
Button ($110.50)
SB ($49.50)
Hero ($103.30)
UTG ($63.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, Button calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.25</font>, Button calls $3.25.

Turn: ($11.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $10.75</font>, Hero calls $10.75.

River: ($32.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $8.5</font>, Hero calls $8.50.

Final Pot: $49.75
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: KK on a low cards flop

Raise pf more. You're oop and 200BB deep. Bet flop a tad harder too.

On turn -- I'm still thinking.
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: KK on a low cards flop

any reads on button? the turn is highly dependent on this factor.

vs an aggressive player, i like the WA/WB line taken after the turn

vs a passive player, you should bet the turn

vs a TAG player, you should c/r (screwplay) the turn

vs an unknown, any could be right. You must have been at this table a while to get to $100. tell us what you saw to get button up there too.
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: KK on a low cards flop

10.75 on turn then only 8.50 on river seems weird since if you're calling 10.75 you're almost definitely calling at least 15 on the river. you might want to blocker bet somewhere too if you're trying to control the pot, your check/call line allows him pound and increase the pot size... might lead to a huge river bet that you wont be able to call too.
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: KK on a low cards flop

lol are you serious? Drawiest board in the world and you're checking the turn? I realize you're deep and don't wanna get raised, but bet 9 on this turn and hope he raises. It's two buyins, villains are retarded, and they're gonna raise you on the turn with more than sets. Stop being so passive and start controlling hands. You can't control the pot from OOP, and I don't know why you'd want to when you're most certainly ahead and villain will call a decent bet on the turn while behind.
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: KK on a low cards flop

I think i like your line. peter harris is right when he says this is very player dependent, how does this guy play post flop? With no reads, i probably take the same line, we might see AQ, maybe even like A5s or somehting or a bluff. I will not call a psb on the river though, donk bet i call.
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: KK on a low cards flop

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I think i like your line. peter harris is right when he says this is very player dependent, how does this guy play post flop? With no reads, i probably take the same line, we might see AQ, maybe even like A5s or somehting or a bluff. I will not call a psb on the river though, donk bet i call.

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What kind of range are you putting villain on?
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: KK on a low cards flop

When an unknown villian bets nearly psb into us on this board... hmmm

QQ, KQ, AQ, A5hh, a few weird Axhh or A3/A6 hands (not that often, but sometimes), and a few bluffs. QQ is all i'm really worried about, although i like the check/call for pot control.
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: KK on a low cards flop

There's about 1 in 300 villains that will limp QQ on the button and flat-call a raise preflop. KQ I can see as well as a bunch of suited aces.
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: KK on a low cards flop

I think thac is correct. A lot of the hands you will get value from are draw and would love a free river card. If he is aggressive checking turn is okay, but i think you are losing a lot of value from drawing hands.
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