16- hand vs urbanmeyer1

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i call QQ+ here =/

[Slim Pickens]

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Intuitively KQs fairs much better against most calling ranges than 66.

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random hand: KQs=66
{22+,A2s+,A2o+}: 33>KQs>22
{22+,A2s+,A7o+,KTs+,QJs}: 44>KQs>33
{22+,A6s+,KJs+,QJs,JTs,A9o+,KQo}: KQs=44
{66+,ATs+,AJo+}: 77>KQs>66
{TT+,AQs+,AKo}: 33>KQs>22

[Ditch Digger]

I think shoving KQ is really bad. It's at best marginally +$EV and you are giving everybody a free note if you get called. Prepared to start getting called a lot more liberally and in general hating the fact that everybody looks you up way more than they should.

[TwistedEcho]

Yeah i don't push KQ here, but if someone showed numbers why its a push, i could be convinced. My default range here is 66+ AJ+ (and it looks like 66 is pretty marginal anyway). Then depending on the players behind i might be pushing ATs/ATo. Probably only need two people who i recognise as multitablers to push AT.

[StregaChess]

So is the consensus Pudge can push KQ on Party but if you are playing on PS don’t even think about?

[Bubblefish]

The equilibrium should be around:
Hero push: 14.40% (33+,A8o+,A4s+,KJs+)
CO+1 call: 6.30%
CO call: 5.90% (88+,AQo+,ATs+)
Button call: 5.60%
SB call: 6.30%
BB call: 7.20%

[Ditch Digger]

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Yeah i don't push KQ here, but if someone showed numbers why its a push, i could be convinced. My default range here is 66+ AJ+ (and it looks like 66 is pretty marginal anyway). Then depending on the players behind i might be pushing ATs/ATo. Probably only need two people who i recognise as multitablers to push AT.

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In SNGPT it's very marginal with tight ranges for villains. If overcalls are factored in I'm pretty sure it's going to be -$EV.

[fluorescenthippo]

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So is the consensus Pudge can push KQ on Party but if you are playing on PS don’t even think about?

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no its that people cant perfectly make up ranges off the top of their heads.

[Slim Pickens]

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So is the consensus Pudge can push KQ on Party but if you are playing on PS don’t even think about?

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It's my contention that KQs is rarely in the correct range even in theory, and is never in it in practice.

[TruFloridaGator]

Apparently UrbanMeyer is a major nit but will be getting paid by -EV calls from spacegravy in the near future.