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Old 05-08-2007, 05:24 PM
kurto kurto is offline
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Default Re: Mid-pocket pair, keeping pot control?

Raise more PF.

I agree with AMA. cbeting into 4 opponents is NOT going to take the hand. checkfold is fine.

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Nice game selection =)

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I suspect at the $5 you regulary get this many calls?
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:00 PM
Vyse Vyse is offline
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Default Re: Mid-pocket pair, keeping pot control?

check fold is super standard, ama did a good job
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:28 PM
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OP said that he didn't have any real reads. So I'm reluctant to put them all on some trash and because in their entirety they are a favorite against me. It's not that you can value bet because you dominate each one of them on his own. Combining their hands and their calling tendencies puts us in the position that a lot of turn and river cards will be desastrous for us, assuming that noone has T2o already...

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What would you do if the T was an 8? Now you have an overpair, still as vulnerable. You cf that flop as well? My question is, does that T change so much. I have never played NL5 on Stars and if most of them is non-awful I could see a check, but in my mind on this level this is a straight up vb.
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Old 05-08-2007, 09:25 PM
SirFelixCat SirFelixCat is offline
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OP said that he didn't have any real reads. So I'm reluctant to put them all on some trash and because in their entirety they are a favorite against me. It's not that you can value bet because you dominate each one of them on his own. Combining their hands and their calling tendencies puts us in the position that a lot of turn and river cards will be desastrous for us, assuming that noone has T2o already...

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What would you do if the T was an 8? Now you have an overpair, still as vulnerable. You cf that flop as well? My question is, does that T change so much. I have never played NL5 on Stars and if most of them is non-awful I could see a check, but in my mind on this level this is a straight up vb.

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And this is my point.

So, if I'm reading most of the old-timers right, unless you flop a set, even after raising preflop, you guys are done with the hand? If the flop is 248 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 's it's pretty much the same thing. I just don't see the ten making that huge of a difference....
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