AKs from the BB...Extracting Bets From a Passive Foe

[Harv72b]

Full Tilt 3/6. Hero is up a decent amount after winning a couple of big pots, including the hand immediately before this when his QQ held up on a J-high, 3-suited board. SB is kinda loose and almost insanely passive over a 400-ish sample; 28/4/0.5 with ASB of 11. As far as I've seen, he's a completely straightforward player with no imagination. I don't think he'd cap it preflop with an AK of his own, nor with JJ. QQ is iffy.

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
6 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero....?

So at this point I'm pretty sure that I just outflopped his KK/QQ, and I believe that he's taking it to showdown anyway about 100% of the time. Leaving us with the question of how to extract the most from a passive opponent on this board?

[Chino987]

i'm not a particularly big fan of raising flops in position when heads up with TPTK (this is straight out of HEFAP), but here I believe its the best play. A passive player wont bet out the turn or river with KK/QQ here, as he'll be scared of the A if you flat call the flop. However, because he obv has zero post flop skill, he'll be married to his big pair no matter what you represent.

So, the max value play imo here is to raise the flop.

[Alex424]

If he never makes a continuation bet on the turn unless he has pretty much the nuts i'd get as much in on the flop as i could as from the stats hes calling down here everytime

[WalkAmongUs]

if he's that passive, I'm much more likely to raise him on the flop because passive players freeze up on the turn and river.

i think a good question is, do you think villain has a read on you? do you think there is any way he would continue to bet without an A?

[James.]

even guys like this get out of line in these battles. just not to the same extreme. that said, i would call down and raise the river.

[Utah]

[ QUOTE ]
even guys like this get out of line in these battles. just not to the same extreme. that said, i would call down and raise the river.

[/ QUOTE ]What if the turn brings the 3rd diamond?

[HoneyBadger]

grunch, call, call, raise on safe river

[Harv72b]

Hmmm, split decision so far. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[Xhad]

So everyone seems to think he's either going to give up on the turn or that he's not giving up at all. My first thought was that bet-bet-check was a distinct possibility and that I wanted to get the raise in on the big streets while minimizing the possiblity that a scare card causes him to stop betting, and therefore raise the turn. Am I way off base here?

[WalkAmongUs]

i think people are worried that raising the turn will make him fold so its either raise the flop or risk trying to get in a river raise.