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View Poll Results: What is the highest online limit game Liz Lieu could actually beat?
$200/$400 14 12.96%
$20/$40 25 23.15%
$2/$4 36 33.33%
$0.2/$0.4 3 2.78%
$0.02/$0.04 2 1.85%
$0.02/$0.04, but only with RB and Bonuses 28 25.93%
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Old 05-07-2007, 02:45 AM
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Default Pokerstars AI before riv - no card flip?

I was just wondering if this bothered anyone else. When you play in a tourney and people are AI before the flop, the cards are flipped up. This is not the case for cash games. Do you prefer they way they configured cash games better or tourney?
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Old 05-07-2007, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: Pokerstars AI before riv - no card flip?

It shouldn't bother you, this is a rule of poker that any room, live or online would follow.
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Old 05-07-2007, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: Pokerstars AI before riv - no card flip?

What does it matter if they're going to offer both players hole cards via instant hand history anyways? Can't they just show me what they have when we're both AI? Here's how every hand I get AI on the flop go -

Sweet! Premium hand, raise. Decent flop, bet. Raise? [censored] that. All in. Call? I'm probably [censored]. [censored]. [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored]. Showdown - I won? Well, hopefully chicks dig the bald look because I just tore all the hair out of my head.

And unless I'm mistaken, I believe FT does this.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:14 AM
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Default Re: Pokerstars AI before riv - no card flip?

In a cash game, you have to request to see someones cards.
In a tournament you must flip your cards.

If anything they should block mucked cards from hand histories in cash games.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: Pokerstars AI before riv - no card flip?

Bump - I might link pokerstars to this thread if it gets more votes.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: Pokerstars AI before riv - no card flip?

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In a cash game, you have to request to see someones cards.
In a tournament you must flip your cards.

If anything they should block mucked cards from hand histories in cash games.

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You can request to see any called hand in a live cash game also. This prevents collusion.
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: Pokerstars AI before riv - no card flip?

i highly doubt this thread will "persuade" Pokerstars to change this. I've emailed them before about this, and they said they have no intention of changing their policy...
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: Pokerstars AI before riv - no card flip?

You're probably right, but it's interesting to me that, so far, 14 out of 14 people prefer the tourney-style handling of AI.
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Old 05-08-2007, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: Pokerstars AI before riv - no card flip?

I would probably prefer for cards to be flipped as well, as I multi-table, it would make it easier.

The rules for turning your cards over for cash games and tournaments a different, so I doubt they would make them the same.

@muxplust - Isn't that what I said?

Tbag said that you can just see the hands in the history anyway, so why not flip them up, I was just saying if anything it would make more sense to go the opposite way and hide them completely.
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