Have I just been rivered?

Douglas Leslie · #1 05-05-2007, 04:50 PM

MP1 is pretty loose with a VPIP of around 60 but I haven't any firm reads on him yet. CO is 58.82:11.43:2.14 after about 140 hands, so kind of LAG.
I rarely limp AA pre-flop, but there hadn't been a lot of cold calling so far and many raises were just picking up the blinds. I know I shouldn't do it and I promise it won't happen again any time soon.
Should I bet this river? If so, am I folding to a raise?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, CO calls, BB folds, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, CO caps, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, CO calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero?

bravos1 · #2 05-05-2007, 05:29 PM

lol...just raise PF

BTW, you're toast on the river!

Buzz-cp · #3 05-05-2007, 06:00 PM

bet & call one more

BigBadBabar · #4 05-05-2007, 06:08 PM

raise preflop
bet the river and see

xd777 · #5 05-05-2007, 06:19 PM

lol i has aces! i call!

just raise preflop!

Douglas Leslie · #6 05-05-2007, 07:56 PM

Is this really a situation where I can value bet? CO's action is a bit odd when he caps after calling the initial flop raise. Either he has a monster, which is unlikely when he goes into calldown mode on the turn, or he was pumping a draw. If he missed his draw he is not likely to be calling a bet is he? CO limped pre-flop. He then raised my bet on the flop and before calling my 3 bet and the cap. If he doesn't have a nine, what has he got? Is he likely to have limped 1010 or above (not that I can really talk on that particular subject!) Would I not have to have some kind of read that he was a calling station who would chase just about anything to showdown before I try to value bet this? If I bet, should I not fold if raised?

Xhad · #7 05-05-2007, 08:13 PM

Check, fold for 2 and call one. I'm not even so sure about the turn bet given that I doubt it ever checks through. Bet/calling that river is horrid.

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S · #8 05-05-2007, 10:23 PM

your up against a PP and a draw. b/c.

marchron · #9 05-05-2007, 11:08 PM

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I rarely limp AA pre-flop, but there hadn't been a lot of cold calling so far and many raises were just picking up the blinds. I know I shouldn't do it and I promise it won't happen again any time soon.

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This is exactly why. Instead of, at worst, winning 1.5 SB from the blinds, you've set yourself up to lose no less than 7 SB. Nice work.

Point Blank · #10 05-06-2007, 10:34 PM

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there hadn't been a lot of cold calling so far and many raises were just picking up the blinds

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start raising lighter in UTG then

limping AA in EP should be saved for games like a Crypto 2/4 game (where you play the same people every day)
or if you have a complete maniac (who is raising 50% of his hands) sitting within a few seats to your left
Or, maybe if you've been completely card dead for your past 40 hands or so

as for the hand ... river isn't looking good ... but I would still bet it and call back one