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Old 05-06-2007, 05:58 AM
sence25 sence25 is offline
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Default Re: 3.40 78s, is this just dumb?

it is a nice move, but not at a i-limp-so-i'll-call-any-all-in-villain-low-limit-sng
though, you really are like 40-60 mostly if he calls(he does like always), which makes it def not horrible, if he folds sometimes.
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they often limp low pps, which makes this move even better, cuz you slightly ahead against 22-66.
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Old 05-06-2007, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: 3.40 78s, is this just dumb?

87s is going to be somewhere around 27%-ish against two random hands if memory serves, and you're getting about 2.13:1 if they both call (meaning you need about a 32% hand or so against two randoms to be break even). The added equity of them folding, and the strong possibility that utg folds to protect his stack means this play is probably fine. I don't have wiz or pt so maybe someone can run the specific scenario for you, but I think it's close, and if it's bad it can't be by much.
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Old 05-06-2007, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: 3.40 78s, is this just dumb?

If they both call, they don't have two random hands.
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Old 05-06-2007, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: 3.40 78s, is this just dumb?

At the 3.40s can you sure about that? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] At best I think you can discount the bottom 15-20% of hands at this buy-in.
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Old 05-06-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: 3.40 78s, is this just dumb?

Sure but if they are that horrible, why are we trying to get allin with 78s, rather than waiting for an actually +EV spot. I mean i have no idea what people limp and call with at the 3.50s, but its not going to be like J4s i don't think.

I don't think this is especially close, what will happen is you push and utg calls with JT, A7, 66, sometimes have a monster and sb will have like AT/KQ or nothing (and fold). This isn't going to be +EV ever, unless utg just disconnected and is now sitting out or something stupid.
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