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Old 05-05-2007, 12:01 PM
JSampras1 JSampras1 is offline
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Default $15 stars turbo - TPTK vs all in

I probably should have bet out in this situation, but i wanted to see if there was ridiculous pushing with all of these people in before i acted.

I know at first view it looks like a weak call, but at $15 i was almost 100% sure i was not facing a strong hand. My read was almost certainly a flush draw or possibly a straight draw.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1380)
UTG+1 (t1480)
MP1 (t2210)
MP2 (t2120)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1860)
Hero (t1480)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t20, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t20, CO calls t20, <font color="red">Button raises to t80</font>, Hero calls t70, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, UTG calls t60, MP2 calls t60, CO calls t60

Flop: (t420) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets t2040 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t1400 (All-in), <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>

Turn: (t3860) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)


River: (t3860) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Is this a bad call? Turned out my read was correct (although he had a straight flush draw). I don't normally want to risk my tourney early on, but it's a turbo and if my read is correct he's 2.5-1 to hit the flush draw, plus he could be in with a random bluff.

What do you think?
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Old 05-05-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: $15 stars turbo - TPTK vs all in

I might call this as two pair is unlikely to push here.

I don't know if I would lead out or look to CR here, but with this board I lean toward betting the pot.
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Old 05-05-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: $15 stars turbo - TPTK vs all in

fist pump+call
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Old 05-05-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: $15 stars turbo - TPTK vs all in

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I know at first view it looks like a weak call, but at $15 i was almost 100% sure i was not facing a strong hand.


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how can you be so sure you're not facing a strong hand here?JUST based on the fact he pushed and this is a $16?
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Old 05-05-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: $15 stars turbo - TPTK vs all in

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I know at first view it looks like a weak call, but at $15 i was almost 100% sure i was not facing a strong hand.


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how can you be so sure you're not facing a strong hand here?JUST based on the fact he pushed and this is a $16?

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I would think a really strong made hand would bet into the button in hopes of getting raised. A push seems more like a really good draw to me.
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Old 05-05-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: $15 stars turbo - TPTK vs all in

I raise to t250-300 preflop
when we just call here we give them good implied-odds to hit with their PP`s.
Lead t300-350 on the flop
call the push as played
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Old 05-05-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: $15 stars turbo - TPTK vs all in

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I know at first view it looks like a weak call, but at $15 i was almost 100% sure i was not facing a strong hand.


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how can you be so sure you're not facing a strong hand here?JUST based on the fact he pushed and this is a $16?

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you *can* be up against a strong here, but there are more weaker hands in his range that I can see him doing this with without any strong read. therefore, im happy to get it all in here and hope for the best.
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Old 05-05-2007, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: $15 stars turbo - TPTK vs all in

Based on teh results you would have probably gotten it in on the flop anyway, but I prefer to lead this flop with 5 players. If for some reason it checks through you're hating life on the turn.
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: $15 stars turbo - TPTK vs all in

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Based on teh results

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This is getting out of control.
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: $15 stars turbo - TPTK vs all in

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I raise to t250-300 preflop
when we just call here we give them good implied-odds to hit with their PP`s.
Lead t300-350 on the flop
call the push as played

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