NL 50: flopped straight, help get value

jww9618 · #1 05-05-2007, 04:26 PM

Villian is 14/12/1 over about 90 hands. My main question is do you thinnk he would have called an open push on the river? If he has a Jack will he stack off here?

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saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($81.95)
Button ($92.70)
Hero ($114.75)
BB ($49.70)
UTG ($57.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1.5, 1 fold, Button calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.25, 1 fold.

Flop: ($5) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($5) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3, Button calls $3.

River: ($14) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $10, UTG calls $10, Button folds.

Final Pot: $34

shoxbb6 · #2 05-05-2007, 04:36 PM

Unless you're going for a checkraise, please lead this flop. Any J will come along, as well as most K's. Turn bet is good.
River is meh. Either push and hope he has a J, or value bet smaller, around ~7. 10 is too large for many two pair hands to call on this coordinated of a board.

doppelganger · #3 05-05-2007, 04:37 PM

Bet flop, 3/4 turn, 3/4 river. You will not get the calls as often but I think the much larger pot at the end will justify playing this aggressively.

stoli · #4 05-05-2007, 04:40 PM

Play this more like Doyle Brunson would...

Bet into the raiser. He raised pre-flop. He is supposed to have a big hand or some big cards. Lead out and hope to get action. If everyone just folds you probably weren't getting much out of them anyways.

Without money going in on the flop I don't think there's anything else you can do to get more money in here really...

UTG called every bet you put in. If you had led out on the flop maybe you can get a check-raise or a stop-and-go in.

jww9618 · #5 05-05-2007, 04:40 PM

The reason for the flop check is that the button was 60/5/4. He led almost every flop checked to him. I wanted him to bet so I could c/r him.

How often do you think he will call a push on the river when he has a jack?

shoxbb6 · #6 05-05-2007, 04:46 PM

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The reason for the flop check is that the button was 60/5/4. He led almost every flop checked to him. I wanted him to bet so I could c/r him.

How often do you think he will call a push on the river when he has a jack?

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flop check is fine then. If he has a jack, no way is he folding the river to a push, especially at these levels.

Keys Myaths · #7 05-05-2007, 04:48 PM

Am I a nit, or is this a fold preflop?

jww9618 · #8 05-05-2007, 04:55 PM

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This might be a fold on a nitty table, but the table was like 45/7. I'm never folding AJ from the SB at this table.

Keys Myaths · #9 05-05-2007, 04:57 PM

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This might be a fold on a nitty table, but the table was like 45/7.

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The initial raiser is who you need to be looking at, not the table.

Plus, a 7%PFR probably has AJo beat here.

CaseS87 · #10 05-05-2007, 05:05 PM

I'm folding preflop and leading for the pot size on the flop.