88 in raised pot on 567 flop

[jhill3535]

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Why should I raise the flop here?

Am I raising for value, or as a semi-bluff in position to buy a free river card. I don't see any fold equity, but I may be wrong.

How much should I raise the flop if that is what I was going to do? Given effective stack sizes a push would be just about pot sized, so just shove?

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sb c/c a 1/5 pot sized bet and folded on the turn.

i think you have a lot of FE. i mean, this is either a monster, (flopped straight), or A7 trying to end the hand now. it's pretty easy to see where you are at. just bump it up to a pot sized bet, and you'll see what's up.

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by bump it up to a pot sized bet, do you mean to what the pot was before BB bet out $10 (i.e. raise to $50), or raise to $80 after I complete the $10 bet to me?

If I raise to $50, I don't see anyway that I can possibly fold given the effective stack sizes, so shouldn't I just push?

[IFeltYourRack]

I like raising a lot more than I like calling. You're going to have a hard time getting action if you just call and the turn comes a 4,8 or 9 and even with an 8 or the 4h/9h you're going to have to be careful. With the PF raiser checking and that guy betting so small I think you have fold equity if you put in a real raise plus you're hands is more disquised and worse hands are going to have a harder time getting away from the bloated pot.

[jhill3535]

What if I said that I was MP1 in this hand with 88, and MP3 (Hero) is someone else with an unknown hand. How does the line look from the perspective of MP1?

[Georgia Avenue]

Still bad, in fact, even less reason to not bump flop since theres no cold caller in between. And stop confusing me with your personality shifts...ARE YOU A WIZARD???

[jhill3535]

No we both had 88 in this hand, and we both butchered it, but he came out on the + side when his turn push was called by Ad4d, and the river bricked off.

[CalledDownLight]

I shove flop.

[Jurrr]

Raise pot on flop.