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Old 05-04-2007, 10:04 AM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Aggressive villain, drawy board, I'd probably push here. I think it's close between a push and a fold.
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: Overpair getting played into

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Aggressive villain, drawy board, I'd probably push here. I think it's close between a push and a fold.

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Given his line, what range would you put him on to justify a shove?
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:14 AM
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:25 AM
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Aggressive villain, drawy board, I'd probably push here. I think it's close between a push and a fold.

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Given his line, what range would you put him on to justify a shove?

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A8 lol

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Just noticed its party....so highly possible!
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: Overpair getting played into

well he could have a set, which he would reraise on this board but wouldnt he push harder given the drawy board. Fish make this play alot to get free cards on the turn. I play back at him on the flop or fold, a call is terrible IMO and leaves u guessing on later streets.

If we just call the flop what do u plan on doing on the turn, if we plan to call the flop are we looking for 2 outs, we only call here if we are calling down otherwise its awful.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:29 AM
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Aggressive villain, drawy board, I'd probably push here. I think it's close between a push and a fold.

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Given his line, what range would you put him on to justify a shove?

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I'd be interested in seeing a pokerstove analysis including all draws/2pairs/sets with 99/TT and one or two bluffs thrown in.

I don't see any point in calling because he's unlikely to bluff with any hands on the river because of pot will be too big so might as well get in against the draws you are ahead of on the turn.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Overpair getting played into

C'mon..18/14, althought only over 80 hands, but that seems like a nit too me. One problem is though, that even 18/14 nits raise pocketpairs normally.

Anyway, an 18/14 is probably not the type of player to play a combodraw or weaker overpair like this.

I make my decision on the flop, play it for stacks or fold. In this case I think I'd fold.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:56 AM
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I'm more concerned with postflop aggression rather than preflop tightness. Aggression factor of 4.

What hand though does he openlimp on the cutoff and then call a raise. Bizarre.
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:03 PM
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Yes, I'm probably all-in.
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Old 05-04-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Overpair getting played into

Thanks for the replies guys.. I ended up folding even though I couldnt figure out what hand he could do this with.

This could probably be A8s some of the time but I really think a set is very likely as well.
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