hand # 4, one more to go.

[jt1]

Villain is a LAG

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

River: (7 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7 BB

[jba]

why are you raising the turn? I mean obviously you are going for free sd. but in a pot this small it's just not worth it. if it is worth it his range is super wide and he's really bad at poker and I would fire that specific river hoping he has something like 65 or 52 or something. but mostly I just fold the turn.

[TheWunderkind]

i like the raise to get the button out(dunno how much this is worth) and take a free sd if neither of it happens you have to fold the River imho

[milesdyson]

raising to get the button out only matters if:

1. you have the bettor beaten often
2. guy behind will overcall behind you if you call and fold if you raise
3. guy behind will fold a better hand

i don't think any of this happens often, and for the raise to be good, all of it has to happen together.

[jt1]

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raising to get the button out only matters if:

1. you have the bettor beaten often
2. guy behind will overcall behind you if you call and fold if you raise
3. guy behind will fold a better hand

i don't think any of this happens often, and for the raise to be good, all of it has to happen together.

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Well, #3 doesn't have to happen but in this spot it might if he has a better nine. There are also other criteria like if donker has a lot of outs and if donker isn't likely to bet the river.

[jt1]

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if it is worth it his range is super wide and he's really bad at poker and I would fire that specific river hoping he has something like 65 or 52 or something.

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good point

[GoodOL]

I think this is a raise or fold situation and is very read specific. Since I have no reads, it looks like SB was going for a flop CR...assuming BTN would bet when checked too. When the BB (you) woke up...he probably decided to just call and wait for a safe turn card. In this case, I fold on the turn.

If you have a read that this guy is a stop and go bluffer...OK, I like the raise.

[yourface]

goodol I think you're going out on a limb there with that analysis; far far too specific. the mind of a LAG works in strange and mysterious ways.

that being said I would fold to the turn donk because I don't think we have enough equity to call down in this small pot. if you absolutely must play on though a raise is better than a fold.

[thepizzlefosho]

I feel like if you raise the turn you should bet the river for value, and try to get called down by a 5 or a 4 or whatever.

not sure whether I fold or raise the turn. probably would help to have some stats as to how aggro he is.

[gehrig]

check flop fold turn holla