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Old 05-04-2007, 11:30 AM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - Akward KK given pf and villain

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I'm firing again, maybe $15 and folding to a raise. I probably check/call a safe river. He definitely could have an 8, I'm not sure why you're ruling that out (TAGs still raise mid SCs from MP so this could be 87s or 98s).

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It doesn't make sense to bet/fold the turn, but check/call the river.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:34 AM
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I'm firing again, maybe $15 and folding to a raise. I probably check/call a safe river. He definitely could have an 8, I'm not sure why you're ruling that out (TAGs still raise mid SCs from MP so this could be 87s or 98s).

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It doesn't make sense to bet/fold the turn, but check/call the river.

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Why not? He could be calling us with AQ and then value betting it when we check river. Or calling us with a flush draw and bluffing the river when he misses can't he.


Anyway I don't want to let him draw on the turn but I don't want to have to put in money on 2 more streets. So I'd ratehr bet/fold turn then chekc river and either call or fold depending on his bet size. Does that not look good?
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:39 AM
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He isn't going to bluff for like 18 into a 50+ pot on the river.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:41 AM
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He isn't going to bluff for like 18 into a 50+ pot on the river.

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I've seen it before.



What line are you taking here?
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:41 AM
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Anyway I don't want to let him draw on the turn but I don't want to have to put in money on 2 more streets. So I'd ratehr bet/fold turn then chekc river and either call or fold depending on his bet size. Does that not look good?

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No, that is bad. Stack sizes are terrible to bet/fold the turn. You are better of check/folding or check/raising AI since draws are not a big part of his range.
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:40 PM
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No, that is bad. Stack sizes are terrible to bet/fold the turn. You are better of check/folding or check/raising AI since draws are not a big part of his range.

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I disagree, but I'm interested to hear what you think his range is given his image, our image, and the action.
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - Akward KK given pf and villain

even tho its a long shot 8s could also be in his range
and Qs aswell his flat call merely looks like a slow play IMO

i would put in his range
AQ QQ 88 and AA because of the pot size bet he's not worried about you having 8s but will put you on either Qs or a bluf

other cards then AQ QQ 88 AA i wouldnt see why he just flat calls even AQ is just merely in there
i dont see what he flatt calls with except a Flush draw that you can beat

bet on the turn and fold to a raise if he calls check/fold
the river
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