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Old 05-03-2007, 08:17 PM
SayGN SayGN is offline
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Default $12 FT, AK Bubble

Taking the short stack into account, is this a fold or a push pf? As played I intended to shut down if the big stacks called or raised, then I didn't follow my own gameplan...not really looking for criticism on how badly I botched the hand, but I figure it's a pf push or fold, what do you lean towards?
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t150/t300
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t2215
Button: t5720
SB: t820
BB: t4745

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t900</font>, 2 folds, BB calls t600 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1350)</font>.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t1950, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t1950, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets t1950</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in t1315</font>.
Uncalled bets: t635 returned to BB.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t4580, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t4580)


Results:
Final pot: t4580
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:23 PM
sence25 sence25 is offline
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Default Re: $12 FT, AK Bubble

I push this pf all day long
Though... I really don't get the turncall in your hand.
but no criticism.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:23 PM
malnek malnek is offline
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Default Re: $12 FT, AK Bubble

shove is fine. if shortie were a tad bit shorter i dont mind limping(and folding to shove) this either and seeing if shortie tags along..ill limp or shove depending on how villains have been playing.

i dont however like the raise to 900 bc you dont wanna be put all in after u have invested 900 already.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:25 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: $12 FT, AK Bubble

Shove preflop, if you're around 10x BB you should always just shove pf unless you want to get value with a big pair. Fold turn for sure!!!
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:25 PM
peterchi peterchi is offline
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Default Re: $12 FT, AK Bubble

yeah I just push this. One double-up puts you in contention for 1st, and each steal at this level puts you a good bit closer too, so I put that as a higher priority than squeezing into 3rd.
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:42 PM
SayGN SayGN is offline
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Default Re: $12 FT, AK Bubble

Is it always a shove in this situation? How short does short-stack have to be in order for this to be a fold?
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:48 PM
peterchi peterchi is offline
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Default Re: $12 FT, AK Bubble

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Is it always a shove in this situation? How short does short-stack have to be in order for this to be a fold?

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The thing is that one double-up puts him real close to you which sucks and is not unlikely enough.

I'd say it'd have to be where one double-up puts him at most at half your stack, to be folding AK here.
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:32 AM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: $12 FT, AK Bubble

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Is it always a shove in this situation? How short does short-stack have to be in order for this to be a fold?

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If you are concerned about the short stack you should just be folding and not playing the hand at all, either you should be shoving pf or folding due to the shorty. With that said I shove here.
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:34 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: $12 FT, AK Bubble

I shove too.

To answer your question : if shortie was way shorter (say around 400 or less), I'd prefer a limp.
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Old 05-04-2007, 06:00 AM
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Default Re: $12 FT, AK Bubble

lol push preflop
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