50 NL: Test Your Handreading Skills

[NL Newbie]

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Ok Microstakers, tell me what you think villain has here.

Villain is 38/24 over a smallish sample. He likes to mix it up with me and probably gives me some credit. My only note on him is that he likes to slowplay (like most 50 NL retards...), but I don't think he would automatically slowplay as a default.

Some questions:

What is his range preflop when he cold calls a reraise?
What does his flop donk mean?
What do you put him on when he shoves the river?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $101.44
BB: $56.25
UTG: $19.54
MP: $52.86
CO: $88.05
HERO (BTN): $88.85

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $2</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB calls $6.75, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($16.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($36.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $21</font>, SB calls $21

<font color="black">River:</font> ($78.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $63.44</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

Pot Size: $141.94

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GRUNCHED


What is his range preflop when he cold calls a reraise? [b]PPs, AQs,AKs/AKo/AQo/Sometimes AJs and slowplayed AA/KK.


Donks usually mean
"I want you to raise me, i hit hard"
"ha let me steal this pot from you"
"Uhho FD is out there let me protect"

Since you call and he c/cs it looks like Ax/JJ/AJ and i doubt he has a FD often here.

River id say boat, either AJ/JJ/AK/Flush in order of most likly IMO.

Now ill read the replys and think "Uhhh how did i miss that"

[Dunkman]

You didn't miss anything, this is a turbo muck.

[ButItWasSuited]

Dunkman,

I didn't mean for this post to be patronizing. I discussed this hand with a respected SSNL'er lastnight and we both thought it was interesting as far as putting villain on a hand.

Regarding raising the flop, the pot is 16 on the flop. It's going to be 36 on the turn if I call. A 2/3 bet on turn sets up an $88 pot on the river with $47 behind. Building the pot to get AI isn't really a problem. Scare cards aren't really that big a deal here because my range of hands is pretty narrow in his eyes, I think. I think if he has AK/AJ he's not going to be too worried about the 3flush hitting in a RR pot.

I think raising this flop folds out a lot of hands we can get value from.

Finally, are you from Greensboro? Where did you go to high school?
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I actually think villain has KK, and have the whole time.

[/ QUOTE ] I agree. I think this is one of two hands that make up almost all of his range.

[PJo336]

he missed KK, but yeh muck and never speak of the hand again if you did call

[creamfillin]

I agree that this is a fold, but I would have a hell of a time laying this down if I was actually in the hand. Hand reading is taxing on the mind and body.

[C4LL4W4Y]

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I agree that this is a fold, but I would have a hell of a time laying this down if I was actually in the hand. Hand reading is taxing on the mind and body.

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Which is why so many people get stuck here.

[doppelganger]

Grunch:

I think he's mixing it up and playing 77 or JJ fast. The standard line is to raise his donkbet on the flop, and I think it's especially important in a case where villain is making a play that's non-standard for him.

I would want to find out right away if he's decided to mix in a bluff or if he's protecting a large hand like a set. Your smooth call keeps the pot smaller but gives you no help in how to play the turn.

[ButItWasSuited]

I folded, FYI.

That's why I'm confident this isn't a BBV post [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[PJo336]

Good fold, and excellent hand, ive actually been discussing it with a friend the last 10 minutes. It is interesting

[godofPOPOV]

i think as a group people have covered all the likely posibilities - what did he hold? - so we can go backward and make sense of his plays