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Old 05-03-2007, 03:48 PM
Pocketbear Pocketbear is offline
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Default ($12) Shortstacked with 33. Flip?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3080
CO: t5180
Button: t1750
SB: t1670
Hero: t1820

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t1200</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1820</font>, UTG calls t620 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t3220)</font>.

The villain is pretty loose and somewhat donkish. I know I have no FE here, but if I'm folding I'm in a really bad shape with only 3.5bb left. Most likely I'm against two overcards here, so is the flip OK in such situation?
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Old 05-03-2007, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: ($12) Shortstacked with 33. Flip?

due to the blind sizes, I guess I would make this play, but a 3 big blind raise UTG for 1/3 of his stack isn't usually a junker hand
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Old 05-03-2007, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: ($12) Shortstacked with 33. Flip?

I would fold. First in vigourish is important here, and you are at best a coinflip, as you state. You have much better chances pushing ATC next opportunity.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: ($12) Shortstacked with 33. Flip?

I also fold. You can find a better spot, here you're always either flipping or dominated.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: ($12) Shortstacked with 33. Flip?

Yeah I fold this hand. Theres no way he's going to fold to your raise so your essentially getting all your money in in what 'might' be a coinflip, he may have a lareger pp. I just shove atc next possible opportunity your essentially still going to be close to a coinflip and youll at least have some fold equity this way.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: ($12) Shortstacked with 33. Flip?

I like the fold here coz 2 players are verry short also and ur chance making ITM here are still ok.Its not a desperate situation enough to make the call in my opinion.I m gonna run it trought sngpt and assign a loose raising range to the raiser to see what it says.(althought in theory UTG should have some kind of a hand to raise UTG with a big stack behind him and 3 desperate shortsack yet to act) .
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: ($12) Shortstacked with 33. Flip?

raiser range :22+,A2+,K2+,Q2s+,Q6o+,J7s+,J9o+,T8s+,98s
Call hands: 55+,A8o+,A7s+,KQo,KTs+ (13.9%)
That s a clear fold according to sngpt
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